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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by niftydrifty View Post
    no need to bring up "over the years." he's made em this year and last year.

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    What is racism?
    ROBERTS: The only group she still really has is white women, and I do think that there's some possibility that you will see a sort of reaction among white women. I had the opportunity --

    STEPHY: Like New Hampshire.

    ROBERTS: -- to interview Billie Jean King this week. And she said, "You know, I feel like everything I've worked for all my life is going out the window," and there is that sense. I mean, here is this woman who worked hard. She's done it all the way you're supposed to do it, and then this cute young man comes in and says a bunch of sweet, you know, nothings, and -- and pushes you out of the way. And a lot of women are looking at that and saying, "There goes my life."

    RUSH: Boy! Do I know these people or do I know these people? That's almost verbatim what I predicted they would say! Down to the fact that the guy is saying nothing, and women think their lives are over; everything they've worked for is toast. This is why I want Hillary to stay in this. This is fracture. This is dissent. This is anger on the Democrat side. We want to promote this. Look at this. We got more Cokie Roberts come up in just a second. From St. Petersburg Times here in Florida: "'Party Frets Over Fractious Tone' -- Will Democrats unite behind their nominee when the sniping ends? This is a particularly precarious moment for Democrats, as Clinton's options for victory increasingly seem limited to tearing down Obama or persuading party leaders to hand her the nomination at the nominating convention even if Obama has won more votes and pledged delegates. Anxiety is especially acute in Florida, the country's most diverse battleground state. Not only do Sunshine State Democrats see potential long-term damage should Florida wind up with no voice at the Democrat nomination, they also see the prospect that the politics of hope could be trumped by the politics of race, gender, and ethnicity."
    Here's the context about how women are fretting that they worked hard to move up as illustrated by Hillary Clinton, only to be trumped by an inexperienced black man who spent like four years in govt.
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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    I'm failing to see how Carter's comments were in any way specifically directed at Joe Wilson. I've looked around and viewed the videos, and I just cannot find it.

    Can anyone provide the full text of Carter's remarks (both at the town hall and later in the TV interview), with some kind of evidence that Carter's comments about racism in America were pointedly and explicitly directed at Wilson?

    Or is just it the agonized twisting of Carter's broad remarks when he said:
    Watch the video at the link.
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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    Beyond this, why can't the man have his own opinion?
    He can have an opinion. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. But his opinion is unsubstantiated and therefore lacks validity. It could be my opinion that Jimmy Carter is an android sent by hostile aliens to ruin this nation one stupid remark at a time, but without evidence to back it up, its hardly something folks should take serious, is it?
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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown View Post
    Another dodge!

    As I said, I can't debate Rush's body of work because I don't listen to him and have no desire to. However, YOU brought up a specific song and YOU claimed THAT SONG was racist. I'm still waiting for you to explain exactly how that song is racist.
    i edited my post.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown View Post
    Using McVeigh to paint the right as violent nutjobs is like using Lee Harvey Oswald to paint the left as violent nutjobs. Both sides have their extremist whackos, but to claim there is a rising undercurrent of violence is claiming that is moved beyond a few fringe lunatics and is now infecting more and more people. I see no evidence for that.
    If your belief is the far right is no more prone to violence then the far left.... then we'll just have to agree to disagree. I have neither the intention or inclination to spend the afternoon dredging up FBI statistic on the issue.
    We both are entitled to our beliefs but......I'll stand pat with mine.

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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    rush's body of work as a whole suggest he is a racist. i brought up his playing of that song as one example of his racism. one example, and there are others. the focus on this single item is ridiculous. how about this? the song's not racist.

    rush is. for many reasons, including the quote i provided, and including his telling a caller to take a bone out of her nose.
    This thread isn't about Limbaugh, did you know that?
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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    If your belief is the far right is no more prone to violence then the far left.... then we'll just have to agree to disagree. I have neither the intention or inclination to spend the afternoon dredging up FBI statistic on the issue.
    That is, you'll make a statement and refuse to back it up.
    Color me surprised.

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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i edited my post.
    From your edited post ...

    how about this? the song's not racist.
    Then why did you post this to try and prove Rush was a racist?

    oh dear......i suppose "barack the magic negro" was all in good fun?
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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    it's pretty freaking clear that you are ignoring the obvious. i supported my claim, and that seems to bother you.



    any comment on obama's racism? or is it just rush you hold to a rediculous standard?
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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    you do realize that rush has made many racist statements over the years?



    Less than Obama. Rush's were taken to be racist by his detractors. Obama said white people are typically racist.
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