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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    you do realize that rush has made many racist statements over the years?
    I've listened to him for over 10 years now. I know what he says. Any amount of "racism" (and I don't see it) in Rush can't come close to the racism of Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton.
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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

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    If you really believe the left is as prone to violence as the far right, I suggest do some research comparing the Timothy McVeighs & the abortion doctor murderer to any left wing violence. Your position is way off the mark.
    Using McVeigh to paint the right as violent nutjobs is like using Lee Harvey Oswald to paint the left as violent nutjobs. Both sides have their extremist whackos, but to claim there is a rising undercurrent of violence is claiming that is moved beyond a few fringe lunatics and is now infecting more and more people. I see no evidence for that.

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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Yeah. The song skewers Sharpton for his racism.

    Yet, you still seem to think it's about Limbaugh's racism.
    i don't think the song should have been played. but nevermind, because even when i post other instances of what i perceive to be rush's racism, it's denied here. i won't be having this particular conversation again.

    funny, i started by responded to the op that i agreed carter was not justified in his comment about wilson.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i don't think the song should have been played. but nevermind, because even when i post other instances of what i perceive to be rush's racism, it's denied here. i won't be having this particular conversation again.

    funny, i started by responded to the op that i agreed carter was not justified in his comment about wilson.
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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown View Post
    As good as you are at dodging people's points, you should play professional dodgeball!
    i might be getting good at it, lord knows it's practiced here ad nauseum.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    If you really believe the left is as prone to violence as the far right, I suggest do some research comparing the Timothy McVeighs & the abortion doctor murderer to any left wing violence. Your position is way off the mark.
    You mean like
    3rd target in killing spree flees Mich. city - Crime & courts- msnbc.com ?
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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown View Post
    Using McVeigh to paint the right as violent nutjobs is like using Lee Harvey Oswald to paint the left as violent nutjobs. Both sides have their extremist whackos, but to claim there is a rising undercurrent of violence is claiming that is moved beyond a few fringe lunatics and is now infecting more and more people. I see no evidence for that.

    People hate Barak Obama passionately and often without being entirely informed or coherent. People hated Bush passionately and often without being entirely informed or coherent. Two sides of the same coin.
    There is a ton of evidence pointing to the likely fact that Oswald was a pasty.

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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown View Post
    Wait are you using completely unrelated Rush quotes to prove a song Rush played is racist?

    If you want to argue if Rush is a racist, that's a whole seperate argument and one I can't participate in because I don't listen to Rush. I've only heard him a few times, and found him to be full of himself and annoying. But saying Rush = Racist (even if its true, which I can't really say) doesn't mean everything Rush says or plays = Racist. So let's stick to debating the song that you brought up and not switch topics for no apparent reason.

    I want you to listen to the song and pay attention to the lyrics. Here's a link:

    YouTube - Barack The Magic Negro - The Authentic Version

    And tell me specifically what is so racist about Barak the Magic Negro. Quote for me actually racist lyrics from the song. I await your response eagerly.
    rush's body of work as a whole suggest he is a racist. i brought up his playing of that song as one example of his racism. one example, and there are others. the focus on this single item is ridiculous. how about this? the song's not racist.

    rush is. for many reasons, including the quote i provided, and including his telling a caller to take a bone out of her nose.
    Last edited by liblady; 09-16-09 at 02:38 PM.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    "Former President Jimmy Carter said Tuesday that U.S. Rep. Joe Wilson's outburst to President Barack Obama during a speech to Congress last week was an act 'based on racism' and rooted in fears of a black president."

    "'I think it's based on racism,' Carter said in response to an audience question at a town hall held at his presidential center in Atlanta. 'There is an inherent feeling among many in this country that an African-American should not be president.'"

    I am failing to see how Wilson's outburst was in any way a racist one.
    I'm failing to see how Carter's comments were in any way specifically directed at Joe Wilson. I've looked around and viewed the videos, and I just cannot find it.

    Can anyone provide the full text of Carter's remarks (both at the town hall and later in the TV interview), with some kind of evidence that Carter's comments about racism in America were pointedly and explicitly directed at Wilson?

    Or is just it the agonized twisting of Carter's broad remarks when he said:

    I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man, that hes African American.
    Beyond this, why can't the man have his own opinion?

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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    rush's body of work as a whole suggest he is a racist.
    Another dodge!

    As I said, I can't debate Rush's body of work because I don't listen to him and have no desire to. However, YOU brought up a specific song and YOU claimed THAT SONG was racist. I'm still waiting for you to explain exactly how that song is racist.
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