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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    oh dear......i suppose "barack the magic negro" was all in good fun?
    Why don't you ask the LA Times what they meant?
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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    oh dear......i suppose "barack the magic negro" was all in good fun?
    Obama the 'Magic Negro' -- latimes.com
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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    That's why there are debate forums!
    It would be pretty boring if all we ever said to each other was "I agree with you!"
    Obviously this is a debate forum. But debate means being able to back up your opinion. So far your "evidence" is dubious at best.

    I disagree with your point of view. My view is that, as you say......"Racism is a serious charge and is considered to be one of the most dispicable things a person can be. "......& therefore when a U.S. Congressman rudely shouts at the first black President in this country's history....on the floor of the Congress....when the President is addressing a Joint Session.........To not even consider the possibility that the outburst was racially motivated is wrong. All factors in making this determination should be considered: Mr. Wilson's past remarks, his associations, his voting record...everything.

    It is doubtful that a true racist would ever admit such a thing...publicly..... so voters will have to decide for themselves what his motives were & judge him at the polls.
    I'm not saying that its impossible Wilson is racist. He might be a raging racist complete with a Klan hood in his closet. What I am saying is that so far, I've seen absolutely no evidence to support that claim and I refuse to tar and feather a man with such vile label until I do see some evidence.

    It is undeniable that there is an undercurrent of violence towards President Obama which is being stoked daily by the far right.
    Obama is not an American
    Obama pals around with terrorists
    Obama is a Muslim
    Obama is a nazi
    Obama is a Communist
    Obama is a Socialist
    Obama will take your guns away
    Obama wants to kill your grandmother
    Obama is destroying this nation

    These absurd charges, aimed at a freely elected POTUS.... sound like jokes but they are all to real &...considering that:
    1.We have the first black President in tbhe history of this nation
    2. Racism is not dead in this country
    3. Gun & ammo sales are extremely high

    I would say than anyone who doesn't recognize/admit that we are siting on a powder keg is either fooling themselves or trying to fool us.
    I deny there is an undercurrent of violence. The far left stoked just as much hatred for Bush while he was in office and I never tried to paint them as violent assassins, just loonies. Don't you remember ...

    Bush was behind 9/11
    Bush is Hitler
    Bush is a Fascist
    Bush stole the election
    Bush purposely lied to get us into Iraq
    Bush is ruining this nation

    Those were charges, among others, that were aimed at a freely elected POTUS. Clearly there was a violent racist undercurrent ... Oh wait, Bush is white so we can't use that smear on his opponents, can we?

    These smear tactics (opposition = racist), chicken little attitudes (the evil conservatives are gonna KILL Barak!) and dishonest distortions (the ring wing fringe is way crazier than the left wing fringe) do nothing to enhance the credibility of the left.

    I always tell the right wing loonies, focus on things that actually matter when criticizing Obama. And I say it to the left, focus on things and people that actually matter when critizing the oppositon to Obama.
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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    here i agree. wilson made an ass of himself, certainly, but who can say if he is a a racist?

    although i think carter is correct in one respect, there IS a feeling among many that an african amercian ought not to be president. that can't be denied.
    My presidential candidate "Aw, crap!" list shows what I do NOT value in a presidential candidate. Here is my "Aw, crap!" list:
    (a) candidate has failed to do something constructive in his life besides politics
    (b) candidate has associated with criminal organizations (i.e. ACORN)
    (c) candidate is not open about his past, including college transcripts, writings, etc.
    (d) candidate has associated with felons (i.e. Rezko)
    (e) candidate has associated with terrorists, homegrown or foreign (i.e. Ayers)
    (f) candidate has formed long relationships with racists (i.e. Wright)
    (g) candidate surrounds himself with tax cheats (i.e. take your pick from Obama's administration)
    (h) candidate surrounds himself with those who have Marxists or extreme socialistic leanings (i.e. Jones)
    (i) candidate has the habit of dragging the US Constitution through the mud.

    Gee, I must have forgotten to put "No blacks allowed!" on my "Oh, crap!" list! I guess that some might still label me as racist!

    I would have enthusiastically supported Alan Keyes, a true conservative who happens to be black, over Bush Sr. (1992), GW Bush (2000), and McCain (2008)! Some liberals would probably call Keyes an "Uncle Tom" - do you think that THEY are racist?
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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Why don't you ask the LA Times what they meant?
    didn't rush play the song?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    didn't rush play the song?
    Have you ever heard it? Do you know what it's about?
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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    and rush played the song. why is that?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Have you ever heard it? Do you know what it's about?
    yes, why? .....

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    yes, why? .....
    Really, cause if you'd listened to it at all, it would be clear that the song parodies Al Sharpton's accusations that Obama isn't "black enough". Which is a pretty racist claim in my mind, that someone of a certain race MUST act in a certain way. So in your mind, mocking racists is racist?
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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    yes, why? .....
    I don't think you actually know about it that much. Rush played a song about it, but it is not about Rush being racist. I suppose had you actually heard the actual song, you'd probably know better.
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