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    Re: House passes resolution criticizing Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    Who called you a "nazi" ??? Wilson ?
    Here's a link just to humor you.

    Tell me you didn't know this was where I was heading...

    RealClearPolitics - Video - Pelosi: Town Hall Protesters Are "Carrying Swastikas"
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    Re: House passes resolution criticizing Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by Don't Tase Me Bro View Post
    It was partisan posturing, political grandeur. Wilson called the White House and apologized and they accepted. That should have been the end of it.
    He did "apologize" but only after he admitted to being forced to by the leadership of the House.
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    Re: House passes resolution criticizing Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    Here's a link just to humor you.

    Tell me you didn't know this was where I was heading...

    RealClearPolitics - Video - Pelosi: Town Hall Protesters Are "Carrying Swastikas"
    WHO CARES ?? That is not the same as a Congressman calling a president a liar. If a Democratic Congressman called President Bush a Nazi or a liar that would be the same. Yet if Pelosi calls a bunch of tin foil hat wearers nazi's who cares. Also if the shoe fits wear it.
    I do not recall the Viet Cong asking me if I was a natural born or Naturalized American before they shot at me, they just shot at all of us f107HyperSabr

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    Re: House passes resolution criticizing Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    Do you guys hink that this piece Congressional trash was worth the time to formally admonish ?
    For the sake of keeping the House in order for future addresses I think it was.

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    Re: House passes resolution criticizing Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by tumbleweed View Post
    For the sake of keeping the House in order for future addresses I think it was.
    Yep...if the Republicans insist on acting like petulant children they need to realize they're gonna get spanked.

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    Re: House passes resolution criticizing Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    WHO CARES ?? That is not the same as a Congressman calling a president a liar. If a Democratic Congressman called President Bush a Nazi or a liar that would be the same. Yet if Pelosi calls a bunch of tin foil hat wearers nazi's who cares. Also if the shoe fits wear it.
    So one elected official calling another a name is worse than an elected official labelling the people they are supposed to represent and protect as something un-American?
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    Re: House passes resolution criticizing Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post

    Do you guys hink that this piece Congressional trash was worth the time to formally admonish ?

    Absolutely. I don't think it was a waste of time at all. The precedent could not be allowed to stand.

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I think everyone should take them time to watch House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer's 10 minute remarks before the House of Reps today. His words were very measured, calm & direct to the point & I recommend viewing it.

    YouTube - Rep. Steny Hoyer Introduces Resolution Rebuking Rep. Joe Wilson

    He was compelling - Clyburn even more so. A linup of Republicans got up and spoke about health care, politics, this that and the other thing. After making the case that the rules must be upheld, Clyburn passed every time the debate was his turn. He refused to make it about anything other than what it was - a reprehensible breach of protocol. After calling 5 or 6 speakers, Boehner looked like he clued in that his stream of Republicans wasn't helping the case, so next time the clock turned to Boehner, he said he was ready to close if Cyburn was, Clyburn responded, "I am".

    And, oh, btw, people in the gallery broke House rules twice, by clapping and cheering after Republican speakers. They were admonished by the person standing in as speaker the first time, but did it again a second time anyway.



    Quote Originally Posted by tumbleweed View Post
    For the sake of keeping the House in order for future addresses I think it was.
    That sums it up really well, Tumbles.

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    Re: House passes resolution criticizing Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by REO SpeedDealer View Post
    Yep...if the Republicans insist on acting like petulant children they need to realize they're gonna get spanked.
    If ANY politician wants to act that way they deserve what they get, regardless of party.
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    Re: House passes resolution criticizing Wilson

    This was dumb politically, and a waste of time.

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    Neat Thing Just Happened

    I just lucked out and spoke directly to my congressman on the phone.

    Representative Lee Terry was running a telephone townhall and my number got called.

    The man was a very gracious host and extremely sensible.

    I expressed two points, the first was mostly this, in regards to Joe Wilson :

    he should be censured, and it should cost him seniority at least, possibly committee seats. Remember that in a heated outburst, it is possible to shout "liar" even though you meant "disingenuous misrepresenter of legislation". If he takes the censure he earned, like a man, thus establishing precedent for a real cost to the behavior.

    Mr. Terry said that loss of seniority or committee seats is reserved for bigger things, but did give some consideration to my point about establishing a precedent of real cost to the behavior

    (the second is off topic but I will post for the sake of complete disclosure )

    on the actual cost of healthcare. . .

    Not premiums and co-pays. The bill for the procedure.

    A major operation, BANG, 140,000 dollars.

    For what ? Six people's time for 4 hours in a clean room and a bunch of disposable sterile plastic.

    I realize those people are highly trained, but how much are they charging us there per minute ?

    What are they chargin us for that plastic ?
    We have a military operating room that is portable for cryin outside.
    Thats the real trouble in all of this.
    It just doesn't cost that much to do get these procedures accomplished.
    Representative Lee Terry was a great host to all the participants and addressed both of my points with clarity and interest.
    Last edited by Voidwar; 09-15-09 at 09:56 PM.

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