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    Re: House passes resolution criticizing Wilson

    Someday, Somewhere, Somebody will write a book about this little episode in Congressional history.

    And the title shall be...

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    Re: House passes resolution criticizing Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Clinton broke a law, both with his affair and his purgery.
    Sorry....Wrong on both counts. Show me a link to Clinton being convicted of perjury & show me a law that says that receiving oral sex...... between consenting adults.....violates any law.
    Additionally your comments about Obama lying are pure partisan BS.

    Clinton may have been accused of perjury, but an accusation is meaningless unless it's followed by conviction in court. ..You know....Like Scooter Libby was convicted of perjury in a court of law.
    Last edited by Devil505; 09-16-09 at 06:44 AM.

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    Re: House passes resolution criticizing Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Clinton broke a law, both with his affair and his purgery.

    Willson only spoke the truth: Obama was knowingly and deliberately lying.

    So when are they going to admonish Obama for lying?
    This is an issue of respect not truthfullness.

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    Re: House passes resolution criticizing Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Hmm wrong agin the National Park Serive has stated yesterday that is was the largest March in DC on History est. between 1.3 to 1.9 Million. So are you calling the National Park Service Liers now.
    Are you still clinging to that lie? Inflated numbers man....a quote taken from the Obama Inauguration....

    You should be asking yourself the question: "Why are they so desperately trying to inflate the numbers and mislead you?"
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    Re: House passes resolution criticizing Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Sorry....Wrong on both counts. Show me a link to Clinton being convicted of perjury & show me a law that says that receiving oral sex...... between consenting adults.....violates any law.
    Article 134— Adultery

    The President is under the UCMJ just like any other militery serviceman. Clinton's adultery was illegal, hence the initial charge and investigation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Additionally your comments about Obama lying are pure partisan BS.
    My comments were pure truth.

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Clinton may have been accused of perjury, but an accusation is meaningless unless it's followed by conviction in court. ..You know....Like Scooter Libby was convicted of perjury in a court of law.
    Clinton settled and lost his licorice for a time.

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    Re: House passes resolution criticizing Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-bipartisan View Post
    This is an issue of respect not truthfullness.
    If it is an issue of respect, then how dare Obama stand before The People and lie to their face.

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    Re: House passes resolution criticizing Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Article 134— Adultery

    The President is under the UCMJ just like any other militery serviceman. Clinton's adultery was illegal, hence the initial charge and investigation.
    This is rather cavalier interpretation. Which law states the president is covered under the US Code of Military Justice?

    § 802. Art. 2. Persons subject to this chapter
    (a) The following persons are subject to this chapter:
    (1) Members of a regular component of the armed forces, including those awaiting discharge after expiration of their terms of enlistment; volunteers from the time of their muster or acceptance into the armed forces; inductees from the time of their actual induction into the armed forces; and other persons lawfully called or ordered into, or to duty in or for training in, the armed forces, from the dates when they are required by the terms of the call or order to obey it.
    (2) Cadets, aviation cadets, and midshipmen.
    (3) Members of a reserve component while on inactive-duty training, but in the case of members of the Army National Guard of the United States or the Air National Guard of the United States only when in Federal service.
    (4) Retired members of a regular component of the armed forces who are entitled to pay.
    (5) Retired members of a reserve component who are receiving hospitalization from an armed force.
    (6) Members of the Fleet Reserve and Fleet Marine Corps Reserve.
    (7) Persons in custody of the armed forces serving a sentence imposed by a court-martial.
    (8) Members of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, Public Health Service, and other organizations, when assigned to and serving with the armed forces.
    (9) Prisoners of war in custody of the armed forces.
    (10) In time of declared war or a contingency operation, persons serving with or accompanying an armed force in the field.
    (11) Subject to any treaty or agreement to which the United States is or may be a party or to any accepted rule of international law, persons serving with, employed by, or accompanying the armed forces outside the United States and outside the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Virgin Islands.
    (12) Subject to any treaty or agreement to which the United States is or may be a party or to any accepted rule of international law, persons within an area leased by or otherwise reserved or acquired for the use of the United States which is under the control of the Secretary concerned and which is outside the United States and outside the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Virgin Islands.
    (13) Lawful enemy combatants (as that term is defined in section 948a (2) of this title) who violate the law of war.
    (b) The voluntary enlistment of any person who has the capacity to understand the significance of enlisting in the armed forces shall be valid for purposes of jurisdiction under subsection (a) and a change of status from civilian to member of the armed forces shall be effective upon the taking of the oath of enlistment.
    (c) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a person serving with an armed force who—
    (1) submitted voluntarily to military authority;
    (2) met the mental competency and minimum age qualifications of sections 504 and 505 of this title at the time of voluntary submission to military authority;
    (3) received military pay or allowances; and
    (4) performed military duties;
    is subject to this chapter until such person’s active service has been terminated in accordance with law or regulations promulgated by the Secretary concerned.
    (d)
    (1) A member of a reserve component who is not on active duty and who is made the subject of proceedings under section 815 (article 15) or section 830 (article 30) with respect to an offense against this chapter may be ordered to active duty involuntarily for the purpose of—
    (A) investigation under section 832 of this title (article 32);
    (B) trial by court-martial; or
    (C) nonjudicial punishment under section 815 of this title (article 15).
    (2) A member of a reserve component may not be ordered to active duty under paragraph (1) except with respect to an offense committed while the member was—
    (A) on active duty; or
    (B) on inactive-duty training, but in the case of members of the Army National Guard of the United States or the Air National Guard of the United States only when in Federal service.
    (3) Authority to order a member to active duty under paragraph (1) shall be exercised under regulations prescribed by the President.
    (4) A member may be ordered to active duty under paragraph (1) only by a person empowered to convene general courts-martial in a regular component of the armed forces.
    (5) A member ordered to active duty under paragraph (1), unless the order to active duty was approved by the Secretary concerned, may not—
    (A) be sentenced to confinement; or
    (B) be required to serve a punishment consisting of any restriction on liberty during a period other than a period of inactive-duty training or active duty (other than active duty ordered under paragraph (1)).
    (e) The provisions of this section are subject to section 876b (d)(2) of this title (article 76b(d)(2)).
    Can you please highlight which of these the president falls under?
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    Re: House passes resolution criticizing Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Article 134— Adultery

    The President is under the UCMJ just like any other militery serviceman. Clinton's adultery was illegal, hence the initial charge and investigation.
    No, he's not.

    Now, it's true that Clinton DID once try to make the argument that he was "active duty military" in order to avoid something (don't remember exactly what), but that went nowhere. The President is a civilian, and civilian control of the military is exactly the point.

    As for perjury, he was found in contempt of court for lying under oath.
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    Re: House passes resolution criticizing Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    The President is under the UCMJ just like any other militery serviceman. Clinton's adultery was illegal, hence the initial charge and investigation.
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    The President does not fall under the UCMJ.like other servicemen. Sorry, but you are flat out wrong there.

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    Re: House passes resolution criticizing Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Article 134— Adultery

    The President is under the UCMJ just like any other militery serviceman. Clinton's adultery was illegal, hence the initial charge and investigation.
    First show me a link saying the President (a civilian) falls under the UCMJ....You are wrong.

    2nd
    Your own links defines adultery as:
    (1) That the accused wrongfully had sexual intercourse with a certain person;



    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    My comments were pure truth.
    If they were facts/truth...prove it with links...& I mean PROVE.
    Last edited by Devil505; 09-16-09 at 01:57 PM.

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