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    Re: Obama Supports Extending Provisions of the Patriot Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Lib View Post
    On the contrary, many of us see the new administration to be Bush V3 in many ways, and find it humorous that so many on the right are as scared as they are....
    I called Obama Bush III for some time now, I'm not surprised by his actions in the least; I said he'd do as much before the elections.
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    Re: Obama Supports Extending Provisions of the Patriot Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I called Obama Bush III for some time now, I'm not surprised by his actions in the least; I said he'd do as much before the elections.
    That's why partisan politics is so absurd. All the faux concern and outrage has simply just switched sides when really policy is very similar and save for a few policy difference, business has been as usual. I like some of the things Bush and Obama have done, as well as dislike many things both have done, but to say they are two extremes as many do is pretty silly.

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    Re: Obama Supports Extending Provisions of the Patriot Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Really? I just smell hypocracy.

    Wasn't it said Bush was protecting us and caring about the well being of America by supporting the Patriot Act and he should be respected for that?

    Yet all I see is those on the right immedietely jumping to attack "lefties" without daring to actually acknowledge the President they dislike so much just did something that "was protecting us and caring about the well being of America".

    Seriously, cries of hypocracy when you're not acting somewhat hypocritical yourself is a bit disingenuous.
    Once again you get it all wrong; but hardly surprising in your desperation and selective outrage of Conservative Hypocrisy, not to mention hyper partisanship.

    No one is attacking Obama for protecting the American people. They are pointing out what a liar the man is much like Clinton. It appears that lying is a Democrat Presidential requirement.

    You need to look up the definition of hypocrite before you run around like “chicken little” constantly railing about "hyper partisans" and "right wing hypocrites."

    Carry on.

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    Re: Obama Supports Extending Provisions of the Patriot Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I see nothing wrong with the President wanting to retain those three provisions to the Patriot Act.

    The "lone-wolf" aspect is a good one. I believe the intent here is to focus on "splinter cells" that act alone. And as we've come to learn over the years, as far as terrorist groups are concerned a "cell" could be just one person acting alone.

    The provision for looking over business records is also necessary in order to catch those terrorist groups that function under the disguise as a legitimate business entity OR a charity.

    I can even accept the roving cellphone provision since it's so easy not only for a terrorist to use an untraceable pre-paid cell phone but also to simply switch cell phone plans. What a $175 early termination fee to a terrorist organization that heavily finances in the millions?

    Good provisions to maintain and rightly so, IMO.
    Yet that wasn't the point of the OP was it? I thought it was pointing out how Liberals like Obama feigned outrage at the provisions under the "evil" Bushman and falsley claimed he would end them.

    Can't say I am surprised that you and Zyph still don't get it.

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    Re: Obama Supports Extending Provisions of the Patriot Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Don't Tase Me Bro View Post
    And so it seems it is Obama who has become George Bush's third term.
    This is quite laughable but hardly surprising. I am always amused when the Bush haters attempt to suggest that this Administration is anything like the last one.

    Of course you are free to attempt to illustrate this using substance and facts; it would be fun to watch you attempt to do this.

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    Re: Obama Supports Extending Provisions of the Patriot Act

    Quote Originally Posted by dragondad View Post
    Unlike right wingers we have principles.

    We don't praise the coup in Honduras and while at the same time rightly criticizing Iranians for anti-democratic measures.

    We don't support illegal torture and complain about "illegal" aliens.

    We don't defend Bush taking the habeus corpus rights of prisoners away, then get all hysterical with tall tales of "FEMA camps".
    OMG, stop it already! You are making me laugh from your hyper partisan hyperbolic rant lacking in honesty and facts here.

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    Re: Obama Supports Extending Provisions of the Patriot Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    No one is attacking Obama for protecting the American people. They are pointing out what a liar the man is much like "insert any politician's name". It appears that lying is a {omit political party} Presidential requirement.
    Fixed it for ya

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    Re: Obama Supports Extending Provisions of the Patriot Act

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Wasn't it Cheney that told people to F off?
    Wrong again; but being wrong appears to be your forte'. He told a moronic Liberal politician who spewed lies and distortions to F off.

    Carry on.

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    Re: Obama Supports Extending Provisions of the Patriot Act

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Read dragondad's post to get a clearer view.

    I did a quick google and pretty much all the reportage says the same thing.
    Your comments were this:

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Wasn't it Cheney that told people to F off?
    They don't square with the facts. By the way, what the hell does this have to do with the lies, distortions and hyperbole being spewed by this President?

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    Re: Obama Supports Extending Provisions of the Patriot Act

    Obama voted for the renewal of the Patriot Act as a senator. Did he not?

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