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    Re: Eastern Europe not feeling the love from Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by LowRevs View Post
    What is "international wise"? Granted we need to pay homage to our current and longtime (since WWII) Western Europe allies, but I like to plan for the future. Eastern Europe has a rich, industrious past which was temporarily squashed by socialism. It's free again, and we should do what we can to see that it flourishes.

    Not UK's health care. I don't personally know anything about it but what I've heard isn't good.
    Alot of the power in Europe is in the hand of those in W Europe.
    European Union which many E European countries are in is dominated by three major players. Britain, Germany and France.

    Interesting, everything i have heard about US's system is just as bad.


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    Re: Eastern Europe not feeling the love from Obama

    While I agree that Eastern European countries are important allies, what Bush was doing was thumbing Russia by courting these countries so heavily. U.S. relations with these nations should include security (reasonable), not the shoot in the dark missile shield, trade, and aid as needed and deserved. To continuously hold a Cold War mindset and play chess with Russia, using Eastern European nations as pawns accomplishes nothing but to dump money into a region and cause needless tension with Russia, who would be a willing ally themselves. So a smarter approach that includes Russian imput and treats the Ruskies as a member rather than an evil enemy is much preferred than the approach of the past.

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    Re: Eastern Europe not feeling the love from Obama

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    Re: Eastern Europe not feeling the love from Obama



    Lib Dems? The insignificant and ignored third party? o.O


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    Re: Eastern Europe not feeling the love from Obama

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    The Poles did provide troops for Afghanistan. Don't know if they are still there.



    That may be true but Western Europe are hopelessly socialist . Seriously, they have long standing governments and Eastern Europe are budding democracies who are already our strong allies. They are also more strategically located to our current strife.
    The Poles have about 2,000 troops in Afghanistan as apart of ISAF. They announced they were pulling out of the Iraqi coalition about a month after the 2004 debates when Bush told Kerry We still got Poland.

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    Re: Eastern Europe not feeling the love from Obama

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    Liberal and Conservative mean much different things in the rest of the world than they do here. Conservatives in much of the world aren't as wound tight as they are in the US

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    Re: Eastern Europe not feeling the love from Obama

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    Liberal and Conservative mean much different things in the rest of the world than they do here. Conservatives in much of the world aren't as wound tight as they are in the US
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    Re: Eastern Europe not feeling the love from Obama

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    Lib Dems? The insignificant and ignored third party? o.O
    Which of the above does the Labour party disagree with?

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    Re: Eastern Europe not feeling the love from Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    The Poles have about 2,000 troops in Afghanistan as apart of ISAF. They announced they were pulling out of the Iraqi coalition about a month after the 2004 debates when Bush told Kerry We still got Poland.
    Iraq is in the process of being turned over to the Iraqis. Rightly so. It wasn't occupied any longer than say Japan or Germany. I've just come upon the information on a TV discussion on CNN that Poland and Czechoslovakia both have troops in Afghanastan. Haven't been able to verify it though.

    I'm not so quick to criticize the strategic decisions of the administration. Their knowledge and information sources are so far greater than mine. I did think that such a contentious thing as placing missles so close to Russia even if defensive was a bit provocative when they could easily be placed elsewhere. At the time though there had been some provocation from the Russians going on.
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