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    Re: Charles Darwin film 'too controversial for religious America'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    I didn't say we don't touch religion. Movies are attacked if they touch religion while in a serious manner.

    A non-fiction life story that takes a widely known intellectual figure and showing how he believed religion to be false is quite different then the Family Guy finding Jesus working in a used record shop.
    What about the movie Religulous? A movie like Religulous can secure a distribution deal with no problem because:

    1. It's American
    2. It's a documentary by a well-known political comedian/commentator

    Actually, I'm willing to bet that they have gotten offers from various indie distributors, but they don't want to settle for that and instead want a major deal. They are now whining about it because they aren't getting one.
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    Re: Charles Darwin film 'too controversial for religious America'

    Why...no...WHO said this was too controversial? I haven't seen the movie, but the preview doesn't show anyhting "contrversial", just a guy restling with truth. Not really anything that would be "ridiculing religion". Hell, if this movie was accurate(which they never are), Darwin would be the most religious atheist I've ever seen, and that I can respect.

    BTW, we already have religulous, I don't think anyhting could be more controversial if they tried.

    So yea, i don't see what the trouble is.

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    Re: Charles Darwin film 'too controversial for religious America'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    We are talking mainstream movies here.

    The Last Temptation of Christ doesn't attack Christianity in anyway. It shows Jesus in an alternate life IF he choose to live life as a mortal man rather then die on the cross. His divinity is never in question and in the end he dies on the cross.

    In a similar fashion the Da Vinci Code doesn't attack Christianity either. It just attacks the full extent of the truth the Catholic church has chosen to extend to the world.
    That's just nuts. Both of them go deeply into the idea that the teachings of Christianity are based on lies -- or at least untruths -- and DVC is about the Church killing to keep "the truth" buried. Yeah, they chose the Catholic church, but that's probably only because it's the oldest and biggest. I just don't see Lutherans being big on the idea that everything taught about Jesus and Mary Magdalene is a lie, either.
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    Re: Charles Darwin film 'too controversial for religious America'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    What exactly makes a movie good if not the actors and the story? Are you suggesting only action movies make money?
    Not at all, but I am saying people go to Movie theaters for the entertainment and exprience, and this movie doesnt have either. Plus it has the potential to cause negative publicity for the studio. Let me put it this way the Passion at least had a demographic, Athiest agree with Darwin and wouldnt need to go see it, Religious folk certainly wont see it, which leaves a small minority of people.


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    Re: Charles Darwin film 'too controversial for religious America'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    We are talking mainstream movies here.

    The Last Temptation of Christ doesn't attack Christianity in anyway. It shows Jesus in an alternate life IF he choose to live life as a mortal man rather then die on the cross. His divinity is never in question and in the end he dies on the cross.

    In a similar fashion the Da Vinci Code doesn't attack Christianity either. It just attacks the full extent of the truth the Catholic church has chosen to extend to the world.
    "Movies can be as controversial as they want as long as they don't touch religion." Obviously The Last Temptation Of Christ was controversial, desservedly or not, and it touched religion. The makers of this movie are just trying to drum up publicity.
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    Re: Charles Darwin film 'too controversial for religious America'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    What about the movie Religulous? A movie like Religulous can secure a distribution deal with no problem because:

    1. It's American
    2. It's a documentary by a well-known political comedian/commentator

    Actually, I'm willing to bet that they have gotten offers from various indie distributors, but they don't want to settle for that and instead want a major deal. They are now whining about it because they aren't getting one.
    Again, a mockumentary by a comedian. This is quite different then a so called true life story of Charles Darwin.

    I bet there is some truth in the indie distributor. I haven't seen the budget but I would assume the scale of the visuals and funding Paul Bettamy and Jennifer Connolly wasn't cheap.
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    Re: Charles Darwin film 'too controversial for religious America'

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    That's just nuts. Both of them go deeply into the idea that the teachings of Christianity are based on lies -- or at least untruths -- and DVC is about the Church killing to keep "the truth" buried. Yeah, they chose the Catholic church, but that's probably only because it's the oldest and biggest. I just don't see Lutherans being big on the idea that everything taught about Jesus and Mary Magdalene is a lie, either.
    Yeah and Angels and Demons was so ridiculously transparent in its Catholic bashing that I had the friend I went with apologize for having chosen the movie at all. I'm not deeply religious, but within the first 15 minutes of the movie, I had had my fill of all the Christian hate seething from the film.

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    Re: Charles Darwin film 'too controversial for religious America'

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Yeah and Angels and Demons was so ridiculously transparent in its Catholic bashing that I had the friend I went with apologize for having chosen the movie at all. I'm not deeply religious, but within the first 15 minutes of the movie, I had had my fill of all the Christian hate seething from the film.
    Catholic Church does not equal Christianity.


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    Re: Charles Darwin film 'too controversial for religious America'

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    Catholic Church does not equal Christianity.
    Yes it does. Bashing Christians bashes Catholics and bashing Catholics bashes Christians.

    Unless of course you are one of those whackjobs that claims Catholics aren't Christians....

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    Re: Charles Darwin film 'too controversial for religious America'

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    That's just nuts. Both of them go deeply into the idea that the teachings of Christianity are based on lies -- or at least untruths -- and DVC is about the Church killing to keep "the truth" buried. Yeah, they chose the Catholic church, but that's probably only because it's the oldest and biggest. I just don't see Lutherans being big on the idea that everything taught about Jesus and Mary Magdalene is a lie, either.
    What lies in Christianity is is based on? It is founded on the idea that the Catholic church is holding secrets to keep power over Christians. The catholic church does not equate to Christianity. One is a governing body of a denomination and the other is an entire religion.

    Of course no one wants to be told they are being lied to. The fact is though that their religious belief in Jesus and the Trinity is not complicated. Jesus is never shown as not divine and not the son of god.
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