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    Re: Tens of thousands attend broad protest of government in nation's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    I find it amazing that these people did not protest at all during the Bush administration......



    I find it amazing the amount of ignorance our foreign contingent posts in regards to this.
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    Re: Tens of thousands attend broad protest of government in nation's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I find it amazing the amount of ignorance our foreign contingent posts in regards to this.
    Oh, tell me then.. where were the masses of right wing protesters descending on Washington during the Bush years protesting the massive debt he was pushing on the country? And dont use the excuse that this was a "healthcare" protest because everyone knows that it was only part of the issue that these people were protesting...
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    Re: Tens of thousands attend broad protest of government in nation's capital

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    Yea, anyone who opposes your messiah must be a wing-nut. By the way, you’re no moderate…cease the charade.
    Jumping on the bandwagon I see. I would bring you up to speed on why I chose that back in 2006 but haven't changed it since my recent return, but something tells me you are more interested in making off-topic comments about me personally than offering any form of debate about the rally everyone else seems to be posting about.

    I'm really not interested in your off-topic opinion of my POV.

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    Re: Tens of thousands attend broad protest of government in nation's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    I find it amazing that these people did not protest at all during the Bush administration......
    That's because you're not an American. You wouldn't understand.
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    Re: Tens of thousands attend broad protest of government in nation's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Oh, tell me then.. where were the masses of right wing protesters descending on Washington during the Bush years protesting the massive debt he was pushing on the country? And dont use the excuse that this was a "healthcare" protest because everyone knows that it was only part of the issue that these people were protesting...



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    Re: Tens of thousands attend broad protest of government in nation's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Oh, tell me then.. where were the masses of right wing protesters descending on Washington during the Bush years protesting the massive debt he was pushing on the country? And dont use the excuse that this was a "healthcare" protest because everyone knows that it was only part of the issue that these people were protesting...
    It's not just a health care protest. It's an every-socialist-freedom-stealing-right-violating-job-killing-piece-a-crap-legistlation-they-are-passing protest.

    Th reason people didn't protest Bush like this, is because Bush wasn't systematically dismantling our freedoms. The worst thing that Bush ever did was pass a bill that allowed him to listen in on a few suspicious, foreign phone calls without having to get a FISA warrant. That's nothing compared to what these clowns are trying to pull.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Tens of thousands attend broad protest of government in nation's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by Dix View Post
    It looked like a huge turnout to me. Especially when you consider that many of those folks aren't the type who usually march in protests. I think that's really saying something. My FIL, who is in his 60's, went and that's the first time he's ever been motivated to participate in something like that.
    Thank you, that is the point I was trying to make. This was a more amateur protest in nature.
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    Re: Tens of thousands attend broad protest of government in nation's capital

    I just came from the NPS website and couldn't find anything in their news releases about the attendees of the tea party or that it existed for that matter. (hmmmm, scrubbed by Axelrod?) Anyway, here's a report from the Charlotte Examiner.

    I have heard reports up to 2M. If you look at this pic you will see more than 10s of K. More like 100s of K. Make your own judgement. Certainly not 60K.
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    Re: Tens of thousands attend broad protest of government in nation's capital

    The anger began when Bush said we needed to bailout Wall Street. People were furious. But before that they weren't angry enough to start a massive grassroots movement.

    Then Obama made it clear that we were going to spend a bunch more on the bailout and people became crazy mad.

    If Bush were still president right now I feel the anger would be there and people would be protesting. Bush still has a fan base but I don't figure the teaparty folks to be part of it at all. Not at all.

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    Re: Tens of thousands attend broad protest of government in nation's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Thank you, that is the point I was trying to make. This was a more amateur protest in nature.
    That is simply not true. It is just an assertion you are making. From the media reports I recall about the anti-war protests, most had never attended a protest before. Same as the people yesterday.


    The people who attended the marches you cited were no more professional activists, or members of an organization, or 'cajoled' into attending than were yesterday's attendees.

    It just happens to be that more people attended the marches you cited than attended Saturday's Tea Party. So, you are diminishing them by saying, they are not grassroots. It's simply not true.


    Delegitimizing broad-based political opposition is an old tactic. Some people, like Marc Cooper, do it because they're elitists who don't trust the grassroots with something so powerful as opinions of their own. And others, like Krugman, Milbank, Limbaugh and Horowitz, are cynical political apparatchiks, who attempt to strip legitimacy from any movement that doesn't support their own ideas. They're especially aggressive in their tactics when defending a status quo that represents their own ideology.

    ... Whether or not you agree with the sentiments expressed by the participants, yesterday's tea parties were just as legitimate and grassroots as last year's anti-war protests. They may be right, or they may be wrong, but they're real.

    Were the tea parties (and anti-war demonstrations) signs of grassroots protest?

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