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    Re: Tens of thousands attend broad protest of government in nation's capital

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    Appeals to popularity don't mean a thing.
    They do when the point is about how many people turned out.
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    Re: Tens of thousands attend broad protest of government in nation's capital

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    A million march to US Capitol to protest against 'Obama the socialist' per London's Daily Mail
    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1213056/Up-million-march-US-Capitol-protest-Obamas-spending-tea-party-demonstration.html#ixzz0R5pvhVgw


    Easily the most intentionally underreported story of the weekend... and on a slow news weekend at that! Note that the London Daily Mail's online headline conjectured that the number of marchers was closer to a million than tens of thousands. I understand that similar comments were made by a Paris newspaper. Any thinking individual can see from the picture above that the number is easily in the hundreds of thousands. But, the only American TV reporting of this major protest was decent coverage by Fox, some coverage by CNN, demeaning coverage by ABC, and the sound of crickets by CBS, and Obama's sponsors, NBC and MSNBC! However, they didn't miss Obama's 100th edition of his healthcare lies in front of 15,000 Kool Aid drinkers!

    Where has honest journalism gone in America?

    I couldn't be there, but I'd like to thank my fellow patriots for their good work this weekend in Washington DC!

    Oh please, put away the violin. Tea Partiers make front page of the WaPo, but 2002 anti-war protest (with a higher turnout) gets put in the Metro section inside the paper:

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    Re: Tens of thousands attend broad protest of government in nation's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Ahhh.....the conservative estimate for the Million Man March was 400K. Other estimates put the figure at over a million.

    I don't know how you think 60k numbers surpass 400k-1 million+
    Hmm, didn't see a number of 60k anywhere in the estimates, and looking at the crowd it was probably bigger than that, but the million man march was never settled on numbers, and, it's goal was to meet 1+ million, but, like most of liberalism, the goals were bigger than the results. Care to address the rest of my point or do you want to just be a hyperpartisan in the traditional Disneydude way?
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    Re: Tens of thousands attend broad protest of government in nation's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Hmm, didn't see a number of 60k anywhere in the estimates, and looking at the crowd it was probably bigger than that, but the million man march was never settled on numbers, and, it's goal was to meet 1+ million, but, like most of liberalism, the goals were bigger than the results. Care to address the rest of my point or do you want to just be a hyperpartisan in the traditional Disneydude way?
    The National Park Service always provides an estimate. The estimate for this march was 60k. That is a conservative estimate. The same conservative estimate by the National Park Service for the Million man march was 400k.

    So that should put it into perspective.

    There probably were more than 60k there, but it is still a rather disappointing turn-out for an event that was supposed to be much larger.

    As far as addressing the "rest of your point".....I went back and re-read your post....there is no "rest of the point". Your entire point was based on the fallacy that this "crowd" exceeded other marches. There's nothing left to respond to.
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    Re: Tens of thousands attend broad protest of government in nation's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The National Park Service always provides an estimate. The estimate for this march was 60k. That is a conservative estimate. The same conservative estimate by the National Park Service for the Million man march was 400k.

    So that should put it into perspective.

    There probably were more than 60k there, but it is still a rather disappointing turn-out for an event that was supposed to be much larger.

    As far as addressing the "rest of your point".....I went back and re-read your post....there is no "rest of the point". Your entire point was based on the fallacy that this "crowd" exceeded other marches. There's nothing left to respond to.
    Estimated numbers are that, not relevant, the point now is that this indeed come closer to it's goal than the million man march, and the turnout was greater than those of the other examples surely, I seriously doubt there was a turnout of even 400k for the MMM since it was reported as a massive failure at the time, by the same press that did NOT report this gathering.
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    Re: Tens of thousands attend broad protest of government in nation's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by rebelbuc View Post
    You might call yourself moderate, but your demeaning and misguided term of "teabagger" shows your ignorance of the truth! These decent people are more numerous than you think. They are not wingnuts, rather, they are the lifeblod of America.
    I could care less what you think of my political ideology. Your opinion is of little consequence to me.

    Just keep your head in the sand, you useful idiot!
    Easy now. Calling me an idiot because I don't agree with your POV says more about you than it does about me.

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    Re: Tens of thousands attend broad protest of government in nation's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Estimated numbers are that, not relevant, the point now is that this indeed come closer to it's goal than the million man march, and the turnout was greater than those of the other examples surely, I seriously doubt there was a turnout of even 400k for the MMM since it was reported as a massive failure at the time, by the same press that did NOT report this gathering.


    No, the turnout was not. It was in the tens of thousands. Less than all of the examples you cited.

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    Re: Tens of thousands attend broad protest of government in nation's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    No, the turnout was not. It was in the tens of thousands. Less than all of the examples you cited.
    Right, even the estimates of the Million Man March and Million Mom March are incomplete, the protester numbers are growing in the case of the march by the group this story concerns, the Million Man March was disorganized and failed to meet it's attendance goal, under any estimates, so did the million mom march by the most generous estimate, year two 100 people showed up, one-hundred. Your typical anti-war protest is maybe 2500 at the most, and these are members of groups typically bused in or people with nothing better to do that day, these are people who went to Washington on their own, "60k" for a conservative estimate, and their are MORE of them each time. While I'll admit that I underestimated the Million Man March, and didn't think there would be over 100k idiots in the Million Mom March, the point stands that these movements are steadily dying, whereas the movements against government expansion are growing.
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    Re: Tens of thousands attend broad protest of government in nation's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Right, even the estimates of the Million Man March and Million Mom March are incomplete, the protester numbers are growing in the case of the march by the group this story concerns, the Million Man March was disorganized and failed to meet it's attendance goal, under any estimates, so did the million mom march by the most generous estimate, year two 100 people showed up, one-hundred. Your typical anti-war protest is maybe 2500 at the most, and these are members of groups typically bused in or people with nothing better to do that day, these are people who went to Washington on their own, "60k" for a conservative estimate, and their are MORE of them each time. While I'll admit that I underestimated the Million Man March, and didn't think there would be over 100k idiots in the Million Mom March, the point stands that these movements are steadily dying, whereas the movements against government expansion are growing.

    You keep trying to compare numbers at a local "anti-war" protest with what was supposed to be a nation-wide march here.
    The reality is, the number of people in the crowd was significant, but it also shows that this "groundswell" of discontent is not as large as the teabaggers hoped for.
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    Re: Tens of thousands attend broad protest of government in nation's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    ... While I'll admit that I underestimated the Million Man March, and didn't think there would be over 100k idiots in the Million Mom March, the point stands that these movements are steadily dying, whereas the movements against government expansion are growing.

    I didn't know that was the point you were making. You seemed to be falsely claiming that the Million Man March, the Million Mom March, and the anti-war march all had turnouts lower than the DC Teaparty March.


    And, someone else made the false claim that Saturday's march was the largest turnout in a decade. Also, clearly not true.

    Outrageous claims diminish the accomplishment and make the supporters seem less credible.

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