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    Re: Tens of thousands attend broad protest of government in nation's capital

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    That is simply not true. It is just an assertion you are making. From the media reports I recall about the anti-war protests, most had never attended a protest before. Same as the people yesterday.
    Code Pink? Cindy Sheehan? The Berkely staff/student body? These are people who've made a career out of protesting.


    The people who attended the marches you cited were no more professional activists, or members of an organization, or 'cajoled' into attending than were yesterday's attendees.
    Sharpton, Jackson, Farrakan?

    It just happens to be that more people attended the marches you cited than attended Saturday's Tea Party. So, you are diminishing them by saying, they are not grassroots. It's simply not true.
    Regular taxpayers are not on par with Jackson, Sharpton, Sheehan, Code Pink, Farrakan, etc. Sorry, the argument does not fly.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Tens of thousands attend broad protest of government in nation's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    That's where the hypocrisy and insincerity comes in. Massive spending and deficits were a problem 30 years ago when Reagan came up with the theory that you could finance the military and all other government programs with borrowed money, lower taxes as a result, and then pay back the debt with interest later without hurting the economy much, because the economy would have grown so large that even while the tax rates remain low the amount of money being taxed would yield larger profits for the government. Phase 1 of his plan worked, phase 2 also worked, but phase 3 didn't work, because while growth in the private sector was good (for awhile), it wasn't anywhere near enough to finance the debt of 8 years.

    To some extent, that policy decision characterizes the spending habits of every Administration since, with the exception of Clinton. The end result is 10-11 trillion dollars of debt -- almost all of it conservative in origin. This has been a long process 30 years in the making, but it is only now that a Democrat, a liberal, who is actually spending the amount of money conservatives have hitherto only fantasized about liberals spending, that the issue is worth having a protest over. I find that hypocritical and insincere; there were dozens of opportunities over the last 30 years to make this into an issue; probably would have occurred during Clinton's Administration if he had actually been a huge spender, but it was ignored and excused on behalf of Reagan and the Bush's, with Bush Junior finally getting some of the fall out -- but most of it being reserved for Obama.
    These deficits and projected defcits are in a whole new class. Obama's first deficit comes within sniffing distance of Bush's last whole budget.

    But even if it IS hypocritical, that doesn't mean it's actually wrong. It certainly doesn't make it ignorant or insincere.
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    Re: Tens of thousands attend broad protest of government in nation's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    WHAT is the deal with all the ignorant 'You're not American so stfu posts'?
    As IF Americans don't feel the right to comment on the whooooole rest of the world.
    Really? Cause it's none of my business and I treat it as such.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Tens of thousands attend broad protest of government in nation's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    I really don't think so.
    Really don't think what you can't come up with a decent rebutt or you just can't face the fact that the Park Service estimated that this was the largest March in US History or the fact that Middle Class Americans are starting to make their voice be heard. So which one is it????

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    Re: Tens of thousands attend broad protest of government in nation's capital

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    Geeeezzzz.... The Government once seized a whore house in Nevada for back taxes. The law required that they run the business until they could sell it.... it went bankrupt.

    Now you want a group that can't make a go out of selling booze and sex to take over another 1/6th of our economy? Hello!!!!



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    Thats to funny you would think with all the sleaze in DC they could find a way to make a Whore house run.

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    Re: Tens of thousands attend broad protest of government in nation's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Really don't think what you can't come up with a decent rebutt or you just can't face the fact that the Park Service estimated that this was the largest March in US History or the fact that Middle Class Americans are starting to make their voice be heard. So which one is it????
    The national park service estimated the crowd at 60k, not even close to being the largest in US history. Actually , quite a small number.
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    Re: Tens of thousands attend broad protest of government in nation's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The national park service estimated the crowd at 60k, not even close to being the largest in US history. Actually , quite a small number.
    Ah wrong answer there would you like ot go back and re-read page's 11thru 15 stopping at the two links that have been put up. Oh and the US Park Service Spokeperson Dan Bana stated that the Park service is calling this the largest march in DC History but hey what the hell does the park Service know it's not like they are the one's who actually work the thing, oh wait they are the one's who work it

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    Re: Tens of thousands attend broad protest of government in nation's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Ah wrong answer there would you like ot go back and re-read page's 11thru 15 stopping at the two links that have been put up. Oh and the US Park Service Spokeperson Dan Bana stated that the Park service is calling this the largest march in DC History but hey what the hell does the park Service know it's not like they are the one's who actually work the thing, oh wait they are the one's who work it
    Key mistake, you are attempting to use facts in an argument that puts the reality back into where stalini.....er....I mean liberalism stands.
    You know Disneydude won't let you get away with such a weak debate tactic as using facts.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Tens of thousands attend broad protest of government in nation's capital

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    Code Pink? Cindy Sheehan? The Berkely staff/student body? These are people who've made a career out of protesting.


    Sharpton, Jackson, Farrakan?

    Regular taxpayers are not on par with Jackson, Sharpton, Sheehan, Code Pink, Farrakan, etc. Sorry, the argument does not fly.

    Those people / groups were neither the organizers of any of the marches you cited, nor were do they have membership in the numbers that attended the marches you cited.

    The people who attended the Million Marches, and the anti-war marches were grassroots people who supported what they believed the cause to be - same as those that attended the rally on Saturday.

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    Re: Tens of thousands attend broad protest of government in nation's capital

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    Those people / groups were neither the organizers of any of the marches you cited, nor were do they have membership in the numbers that attended the marches you cited.
    You are being very disingenuous here, everyone knows Berkely had an organized rally in the city against the war, everyone knows Code Pink organizes protests around the country, and the Million Man/Mom March were organized by the black reverends and the group Million Moms(which is why they called it the million mom march).

    The people who attended the Million Marches, and the anti-war marches were grassroots people who supported what they believed the cause to be - same as those that attended the rally on Saturday.
    No they in fact weren't, a quick look at the groups mission statements and who they take contributions from told me the opposite, and, they are funded specifically to organize protests.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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