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    Re: Obama Criticizes Republicans for Blocking Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I wonder:
    Do you really believe that the GOP has not offered alternative plans, or do you know better and posted hoping that you dont get caught?

    The GOP's Health-Care Alternative - WSJ.com
    House GOP outlines health care bill - CNN.com
    And they have done what to promote those bills? Almost nothing.

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    Re: Obama Criticizes Republicans for Blocking Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Wait... your answer is:



    Really?

    Why does the GOP have to 'quit whining' to pass the bill?


    No, Goobs, the answer is right here:



    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    Problem is with the failed logic of those that think criticizing 'those in the Republican party who think that the best thing to do is just to kill reform' ipso facto means that Pres Obama does not have the votes to pass a good bill.


    That would be a big problem. With logic on the part of the one putting it forward. Not with Pres Obama's statements.





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    "I believe that we will have enough votes to pass not just any health care bill, but a good health care bill that helps the American people, reduces costs, actually over the long-term controls our deficit. I'm confident that we've got that," Obama said in an interview broadcast Sunday on CBS' "60 Minutes. "There are those in the Republican party who think the best thing to do is just to kill reform. That that will be good politics."
    Last edited by jackalope; 09-14-09 at 04:30 PM.

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    Re: Obama Criticizes Republicans for Blocking Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    And they have done what to promote those bills? Almost nothing.
    The kick is up... and misses... because the goalposts were moved.

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    Re: Obama Criticizes Republicans for Blocking Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    And they have done what to promote those bills? Almost nothing.

    They can't promote those bills, because they are not serious bills. They cannot produce any numbers showing:

    Bills are paid for
    Bills reduced uninsureds
    Bills lower the rate of increase in health care, or hc insur premiums.


    They don't accomplish a single one of those, never mind all three.

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    Re: Obama Criticizes Republicans for Blocking Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    No, Goobs, the answer is right here:
    I'm sorry -- you'll have to be more specific.

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    Re: Obama Criticizes Republicans for Blocking Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    The kick is up... and misses... because the goalposts were moved.
    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    The kick is up... and misses... because the goalposts were moved.

    What, skipping record?

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    Re: Obama Criticizes Republicans for Blocking Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I'm sorry -- you'll have to be more specific.

    No, Goobs, the question was a logic failure. The one has nothing to do with the other.

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    Re: Obama Criticizes Republicans for Blocking Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    The kick is up... and misses... because the goalposts were moved.
    Actually not true. Quietly sending a couple incomplete bills to committee without promoting those bills is not saying what you would vote for, or saying what you want. Ask people what the republican position on health care reform is, and most will say they are against it.

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    Re: Obama Criticizes Republicans for Blocking Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Actually not true. Quietly sending a couple incomplete bills to committee without promoting those bills is not saying what you would vote for, or saying what you want. Ask people what the republican position on health care reform is, and most will say they are against it.
    Absolutely, the GOP has yet to make a campaign for reform to entice blue dogs - because thats not really what theyre after.

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    Re: Obama Criticizes Republicans for Blocking Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I sure hope there is one!


    then we will have something for you all to complain about as we cheer.
    What do you mean by you all? I haven't stated anything about the bill but rather Republicans lack of compromise while expecting the democrats to acquiesce.

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