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    Re: Obama Criticizes Republicans for Blocking Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    You can dodge the issue all you want -- fact of the matter is the GOP cannot stop the bill, only the Dems can.
    You're right they can't stop it if the dems choose the budget reconcilliation process. However if they try the normal route the dems simply do not have enough dems to defeat a filabuster. Johnson isn't reliable because of his health situation. Lieberman is an independent who can't be counted on. Most I see them getting is 59 if all the dems and Sanders votes their way.

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    Re: Obama Criticizes Republicans for Blocking Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Please answer the question :



    It's okay if you're scared. I know you like avoiding the topic.
    I thought the Dems had the majority. Don't bills pass on a simple majority vote?
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    Re: Obama Criticizes Republicans for Blocking Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I thought the Dems had the majority. Don't bills pass on a simple majority vote?

    Not in the case of a filabuster if the republicans decide to use that option. And if they do there is no guarantee that the democrats would have enough votes to override it. Being that there are 2 independents in the senate the dems don't have the 60 vote required.

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    Re: Obama Criticizes Republicans for Blocking Health Care Bill

    This is when we're going to solve all the health care problems in this country? When half the people are freaking out about how much money we've been spending on wars and bailouts?

    And we're not going to solve the cost problem illegal of immigrants using so much of the health care budget first? And where going to bring up that seniors are using too much of our money at the very end.

    How can any of this be the fault of the republicans?

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    Re: Obama Criticizes Republicans for Blocking Health Care Bill

    then, use reconciliation

    the prez blames too much, he appears whiny, opposite of a leader

    he's blamed doctors, insurance co's, bush, cable news, rush, town hall attendees, the cambridge police, congress for not getting things done, congress for not including his "favorite" revenue means (the taxing of cadillac benefit plans, ala john mccain), the rich...

    the prez blames too much

    leaders get things done

    obama makes excuses

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    Re: Obama Criticizes Republicans for Blocking Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    How can any of this be the fault of the republicans?
    Because Democrats are perpetually blameless.
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    Re: Obama Criticizes Republicans for Blocking Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    This is when we're going to solve all the health care problems in this country?
    Of course not.
    That it will not lays the groundwork for the NEXT 'reform' bill, that will bring even MORE government control/presence/involvement/providence in the health care industry.
    This is, of course, on purpose.

    When half the people are freaking out about how much money we've been spending on wars and bailouts?
    When -Dems- run huge deficits for -their- pet projects, its OK.
    Just ask them -- they wont disagree with you.
    Last edited by Goobieman; 09-14-09 at 11:37 AM.

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    Re: Obama Criticizes Republicans for Blocking Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Not in the case of a filabuster if the republicans decide to use that option. And if they do there is no guarantee that the democrats would have enough votes to override it. Being that there are 2 independents in the senate the dems don't have the 60 vote required.
    Are the Republicans filibustering?
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    Re: Obama Criticizes Republicans for Blocking Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Are the Republicans filibustering?
    Too early to tell. Until a bill comes out of committee there's nothing to filabuster. We'll know what they do when the bill comes out of the committee

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    Re: Obama Criticizes Republicans for Blocking Health Care Bill

    Well if it's too early to tell, what is Obama bitching about?
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