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    Re: Obama Criticizes Republicans for Blocking Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by JakeFromWI View Post
    And the GOP will only support their own model because apparently providing an affordable option that our near monopolistic health care system can't is fascism.
    So you agree that The REAL reason this hasn't gone up for a vote doesnt have anything to do with The Obama's desire for bi-partisanship GOP support, as such a desire in demonstrably non-existent.

    So, what is it then?

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    Re: Obama Criticizes Republicans for Blocking Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Apparently "if you can make this bill better, I'd love to hear about it!" is what passes for "bipartisanship." Doesn't matter that the opposition thinks it's ill-conceived from the ground up; no, a suggestion box to tweak Obama's agenda on a few minor points -- that's bipartisanship.
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    How much kool-aid you have to drink before you no longer see that there is absolutely NO desire for bi-partisanship from The Obama, the Dems or the left, and stop wondering why, exactly, that is?

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    Re: Obama Criticizes Republicans for Blocking Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I dont understand why people think that Republicans would or could cave in on the issue of the Public Option.

    I alos don't understand why the Dems, if they have the votes that The Obama says they have, don't just pass the thing instead of harping on the GOP?
    Hmm in one post you talk about them not wanting to be bipartisan and in the next imply that they are by trying to get the gop on board

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    Re: Obama Criticizes Republicans for Blocking Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    So you agree that The REAL reason this hasn't gone up for a vote doesnt have anything to do with The Obama's desire for bi-partisanship GOP support, as such a desire in demonstrably non-existent.

    So, what is it then?
    A public option is NON-DEBATABLE according to the right. It can't even be discussed. Still. Because...it's fascism or socialism or whatever your word of the day is. So they block it. THank you for all your hard work.

    Would Obama be a saint to you folks if he never proposed anything and just attented events and waved a lot?
    and so it goes...

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    Re: Obama Criticizes Republicans for Blocking Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    If that were true, The Obama wold offer a bill that the GOP could support.
    Given that He hasnt and that He won't, your response is incorrect.

    Want to try again, or is that your final answer?
    So in other words give the GOP what they want regardless of who is president or who controls congress. The GOP being the minority should be trying to work towards a compromise not asking for everything they want or taking their toys off the playground.

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    Re: Obama Criticizes Republicans for Blocking Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    "Take this bill, or shove it"
    -The Obama

    How much kool-aid you have to drink before you no longer see that there is absolutely NO desire for bi-partisanship from The Obama, the Dems or the left, and stop wondering why, exactly, that is?
    Just because bipartisanship to you and the GOP means acquiescence doesn't mean they're not trying to be bipartisan. Look at the compromises thus far. On the stimulus bill tax cuts made up half the bill, the total amount of the stimulus was cut. Also the bank bailouts they took out the controls on CEO pay. Also they did away with the homeowner assistance parts from the bills. They're close to pulling out the public option and have compromised before even asking for single payer or anything above a public option.

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    Re: Obama Criticizes Republicans for Blocking Health Care Bill

    Oh and one other little item it's not the Republicans who are holding this thing up it's The Blue Dog Democrats who have made it quite clear how they feel So once again I ask how is the Republicans holding this up.

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    Re: Obama Criticizes Republicans for Blocking Health Care Bill

    Seems to me that actual "bipartisanship" wouldn't be "hey, I've already got this plan, and I'm willing to maybe take some of your suggestions into account" -- it would be "let's build something from the ground up together."

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    Re: Obama Criticizes Republicans for Blocking Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    What was there to talk about? The House oversight committee did a study that showed we spent 8 million dollars to find 8 illegal immigrants that abused medicaid. There's not secret brotherhood of illegal immigrants conspiring to steal health care funds. Most illegals try to keep a low profile. As for seniors who is saying we spend too much on seniors? Do you have numbers on how much money illegals take in health care?
    Wow, are you really comparing illegals to a group of people that have practically spent their entire lives pumping money into health care?

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    Re: Obama Criticizes Republicans for Blocking Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    So you agree that The REAL reason this hasn't gone up for a vote doesnt have anything to do with The Obama's desire for bi-partisanship GOP support, as such a desire in demonstrably non-existent.

    So, what is it then?
    Ooh, ooh, ooh, I know!

    The Dems, espeically the Blue Dogs are scared ****less to put their names on this bill without a few Republicans to scape goat when the bill goes tits up.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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