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    Re: US Marine and Afghan forces lose many due to lack of support...

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeVFF View Post
    No it doesn't.

    American lives > Other Lives

    Period

    While each case must be interpreted individually, thats what it comes down to. Thats what we have C.O.'s for... and they failed EPICLY in this case.
    Except that you completely ignored what I wrote. I never argued that American lives are less than other lives. I argued that our actions now may cost us additional American lives that were unnecessary to lose in the future. If we look at each case independently then we will always do what you folks want, which will likely prolong the war and send more Americans to die. If you are really harping on lives, then why do you support a measure which exposes even more soldiers to conflict?
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    Re: US Marine and Afghan forces lose many due to lack of support...

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeVFF View Post
    You are the only one laughing.
    Clearly, you don't spend enough time in the other parts of this forum. I suggest you explore other parts of this forum to understand just what I'm talking about.
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    Re: US Marine and Afghan forces lose many due to lack of support...

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Except that you completely ignored what I wrote. I never argued that American lives are less than other lives. I argued that our actions now may cost us additional American lives that were unnecessary to lose in the future. If we look at each case independently then we will always do what you folks want, which will likely prolong the war and send more Americans to die. If you are really harping on lives, then why do you support a measure which exposes even more soldiers to conflict?
    That's not true. You said:

    Yes, I think American lives are worthless because I argued for resolving the war quickly to reduce the risk of death to American soldiers. I'm against prolonging the war because it risks American soldiers' lives and therefore I think those lives are worthless.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: US Marine and Afghan forces lose many due to lack of support...

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's not true. You said:
    * Main Entry: sar·casm
    * Pronunciation: \ˈsär-ˌka-zəm\
    * Function: noun
    * Etymology: French or Late Latin; French sarcasme, from Late Latin sarcasmos, from Greek sarkasmos, from sarkazein to tear flesh, bite the lips in rage, sneer, from sark-, sarx flesh; probably akin to Avestan thwarəs- to cut
    * Date: 1550

    1 : a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain
    2 a : a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual b : the use or language of sarcasm

    Man, you don't even know when people are mocking you.
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    Re: US Marine and Afghan forces lose many due to lack of support...

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    * Main Entry: sar·casm
    * Pronunciation: \ˈsär-ˌka-zəm\
    * Function: noun
    * Etymology: French or Late Latin; French sarcasme, from Late Latin sarcasmos, from Greek sarkasmos, from sarkazein to tear flesh, bite the lips in rage, sneer, from sark-, sarx flesh; probably akin to Avestan thwarəs- to cut
    * Date: 1550

    1 : a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain
    2 a : a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual b : the use or language of sarcasm

    Man, you don't even know when people are mocking you.

    Nice try, sista'.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: US Marine and Afghan forces lose many due to lack of support...

    I'm not sure if you are either stupid or being intentionally ridiculous, especiallly since the reasons I cited are for not having Americans die.

    Maybe you think someone is a fiscal conservative because they argued for massive government and huge deficits?

    Maybe you just stop reading after a certain point?
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    Re: US Marine and Afghan forces lose many due to lack of support...

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    I'm not sure if you are either stupid or being intentionally ridiculous, especiallly since the reasons I cited are for not having Americans die.

    Maybe you think someone is a fiscal conservative because they argued for massive government and huge deficits?

    Maybe you just stop reading after a certain point?
    Perhaps it's you that is being intentionally stupid? I mean, fiscal conservatism has nothing to do with the topic. Reach much?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: US Marine and Afghan forces lose many due to lack of support...

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Perhaps it's you that is being intentionally stupid? I mean, fiscal conservatism has nothing to do with the topic. Reach much?
    * Main Entry: anal·o·gy
    * Pronunciation: \ə-ˈna-lə-jē\
    * Function: noun
    * Inflected Form(s): plural anal·o·gies
    * Date: 15th century

    1 : inference that if two or more things agree with one another in some respects they will probably agree in others
    2 a : resemblance in some particulars between things otherwise unlike : similarity b : comparison based on such resemblance
    3 : correspondence between the members of pairs or sets of linguistic forms that serves as a basis for the creation of another form
    4 : correspondence in function between anatomical parts of different structure and origin — compare homology
    synonyms see likeness

    lol.

    You think I think American lives are worthless because I said so and then argued that I think American lives shouldn't be wasted. I said something and then justified it with diametrically opposed statements.

    Clearly, sarcasm isn't something you can pick up.

    And the analogy I gave was you think that diametrically opposed statements directly following a statement isn't obviously sarcasm.

    Wow.
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    Re: US Marine and Afghan forces lose many due to lack of support...

    No counterinsurgency has ever been won by attrition (for the major power). Occupiers mostly lose regardless, but the small number of successes have either from cowing the populace with incredible brutality or by winning them over enough to not want to fight anymore. Considering the political options available to the U.S. winning the war is going to require we can secure the support of the locals. A cynical but accurate assessment would calculate the damage from killing local civilians to stabilizing the nation, to loss of political support back home for dead American soldiers.

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    Re: US Marine and Afghan forces lose many due to lack of support...

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    * Main Entry: anal·o·gy
    * Pronunciation: \ə-ˈna-lə-jē\
    * Function: noun
    * Inflected Form(s): plural anal·o·gies
    * Date: 15th century

    1 : inference that if two or more things agree with one another in some respects they will probably agree in others
    2 a : resemblance in some particulars between things otherwise unlike : similarity b : comparison based on such resemblance
    3 : correspondence between the members of pairs or sets of linguistic forms that serves as a basis for the creation of another form
    4 : correspondence in function between anatomical parts of different structure and origin — compare homology
    synonyms see likeness

    lol.

    You think I think American lives are worthless because I said so and then argued that I think American lives shouldn't be wasted. I said something and then justified it with diametrically opposed statements.

    Clearly, sarcasm isn't something you can pick up.

    And the analogy I gave was you think that diametrically opposed statements directly following a statement isn't obviously sarcasm.

    Wow.
    Ho many times do you have to post a definition? We saw the first time. Are you just looking for attention?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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