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    Re: White House on Health Care and Illegals

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Very childish post. "3. Obama always loses." What the hell is that supposed to mean??

    Wilson is now poling equally with his challenger Rob Miller.

    LOLOLOL
    what's "obama always loses" sposed to mean?

    it means, "obama always loses"

    public option, cap and trade, reaching out to iran, blaming bush, closing gitmo, investigating "torture," prosecuting cheney, paygo, clunkers, stimuli, cars takeovers, bailouts and bonuses, afghanistan, van jones, cass sunstein, john holden, harold koh, addressing school kids, ending rendition, ending detention, ending the patriot act, ending don't ask don't tell, ending earmarks, putting legislation online, hiring lobbyists and tax cheats, public finance, taxing medical benefits, fining the uninsured, taxing those under 250, cutting the deficit in half, deficits at 12.65% of gdp...

    all political losers

    LOL's, indeed

    nothing remains within the restricted reach of the Already Irrelevant

    except maybe minimum wage or simplifying the tax code

    biggest, fastest loser in american history
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    Re: White House on Health Care and Illegals

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Playing a game of semantics makes your statement intellectually dishonest at best.

    Maybe, but in the context of the post I was responding to it was quite appropriate.
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    Re: White House on Health Care and Illegals

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    I was talking about a Healthcare Bill. Obama hasn’t signed a healthcare bill yet,... so it’s a healthcare Proposal that has not yet been signed into law. Hence the term…bogus.
    Your term is bogus.

    I can easily find hundreds of video clips of U.S. Legislators referring to as yet unsigned legislation as a "bill".

    Do you think you know the terminology better than legislators ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Maybe, but in the context of the post I was responding to it was quite appropriate.
    I said at best, so no it was not appropriate.

    Either way it does not change the fact Obama was lying.
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    Re: White House on Health Care and Illegals

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwar View Post
    Your term is bogus.

    I can easily find hundreds of video clips of U.S. Legislators referring to as yet unsigned legislation as a "bill".

    Do you think you know the terminology better than legislators ?

    Meh…show me a few that has “healthcare bill” in it, most of the time they refer to a specific number such as H.R.3200, or whatever number they are talking about.
    The haggardness of poverty is everywhere seen contrasted with the sleekness of wealth, the exhorted labor of some compensating for the idleness of others, wretched hovels by the side of stately colonnades, the rags of indigence blended with the ensigns of opulence; in a word, the most useless profusion in the midst of the most urgent wants.Jean-Baptiste Say

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    Re: White House on Health Care and Illegals

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Meh…show me a few that has “healthcare bill” in it, most of the time they refer to a specific number such as H.R.3200, or whatever number they are talking about.
    Split another hair. Maybe add another word in to try to be right.

    . . . Ooops, no time machine for you !

    Where's that original quote again ?

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Its not a bill yet, your statement is bogus.
    Oh, right there it is.

    Don't be too broke up about this, this is the interwebs and sometimes ya get pwned.

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    Re: White House on Health Care and Illegals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog;
    I said at best, so no it was not appropriate.
    Yes, quite appropriate.
    Either way it does not change the fact Obama was lying.


    And no, Obama wasn’t lying…remember he is a Harvard trained attorney.
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    Re: White House on Health Care and Illegals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwar;
    Split another hair. Maybe add another word in to try to be right.

    . . . Ooops, no time machine for you !

    Where's that original quote again ?



    Oh, right there it is.

    Don't be too broke up about this, this is the interwebs and sometimes ya get pwned.

    Fell off the wagon again did ya?

    Again, it’s not a bill until the President signs it; until then it’s a proposed bill, often to referred by the HC number.

    Everything that we are discussing is pure speculation, the final bill will most likely have some of what the wingers want, not a whole lot but maybe if they behave a bone or two.

    More than likely it will have some form of Trigger mechanism in it that will most likely be going off prior to the 2012 elections. Not what I would like but it will be called healthcare reform and it will be signed into law with a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth by the wingers and their assorted clones.

    When it is signed it will be called “OBAMAS HEALTHCARE BILL” or there also the possibility it will be called the “KENNEDY HEALTCARE BILL”. Until then it is not a BILL it’s a proposed bill or a HC number.
    The haggardness of poverty is everywhere seen contrasted with the sleekness of wealth, the exhorted labor of some compensating for the idleness of others, wretched hovels by the side of stately colonnades, the rags of indigence blended with the ensigns of opulence; in a word, the most useless profusion in the midst of the most urgent wants.Jean-Baptiste Say

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    Re: White House on Health Care and Illegals

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    Fell off the wagon again did ya?

    Again, it’s not a bill until the President signs it; until then it’s a proposed bill, often to referred by the HC number.

    Everything that we are discussing is pure speculation, the final bill will most likely have some of what the wingers want, not a whole lot but maybe if they behave a bone or two.

    More than likely it will have some form of Trigger mechanism in it that will most likely be going off prior to the 2012 elections. Not what I would like but it will be called healthcare reform and it will be signed into law with a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth by the wingers and their assorted clones.

    When it is signed it will be called “OBAMAS HEALTHCARE BILL” or there also the possibility it will be called the “KENNEDY HEALTCARE BILL”. Until then it is not a BILL it’s a proposed bill or a HC number.
    I hardly want to get involved in this discussion, since it's pretty apparent you're stuck on the belief you're correct... but...

    SchoolhouseRock - I'm Just a Bill

    I'm just a bill.
    Yes, I'm only a bill.
    And I'm sitting here on Capitol Hill.
    Well, it's a long, long journey
    To the capital city.
    It's a long, long wait
    While I'm sitting in committee,
    But I know I'll be a law someday
    At least I hope and pray that I will,
    But today I am still just a bill.

    Boy: Gee, Bill, you certainly have a lot of patience and courage.

    Bill: Well I got this far. When I started, I wasn't even a bill, I was just an idea. Some folks back home decided they wanted a law passed, so they called their local Congressman and he said, "You're right, there oughta be a law." Then he sat down and wrote me out and introduced me to Congress. And I became a bill, and I'll remain a bill until they decide to make me a law.

    I'm just a bill
    Yes I'm only a bill,
    And I got as far as Capitol Hill.
    Well, now I'm stuck in committee
    And I'll sit here and wait
    While a few key Congressmen discuss and debate
    Whether they should let me be a law.
    How I hope and pray that they will,
    But today I am still just a bill.

    Boy: Listen to those congressmen arguing! Is all that discussion and debate about you?

    Bill: Yeah, I'm one of the lucky ones. Most bills never even get this far. I hope they decide to report on me favourably, otherwise I may die.

    Boy: Die?

    Bill: Yeah, die in committee. Oooh, but it looks like I'm gonna live! Now I go to the House of Representatives, and they vote on me.

    Boy: If they vote yes, what happens?

    Bill: Then I go to the Senate and the whole thing starts all over again.

    Boy: Oh no!

    Bill: Oh yes!

    I'm just a bill
    Yes, I'm only a bill
    And if they vote for me on Capitol Hill
    Well, then I'm off to the White House
    Where I'll wait in a line
    With a lot of other bills
    For the president to sign
    And if he signs me, then I'll be a law.
    How I hope and pray that he will,
    But today I am still just a bill.

    Boy: You mean even if the whole Congress says you should be a law, the president can still say no?

    Bill: Yes, that's called a veto. If the President vetoes me, I have to go back to Congress and they vote on me again, and by that time you're so old...

    Boy: By that time it's very unlikely that you'll become a law. It's not easy to become a law, is it?

    Bill: No!

    But how I hope and I pray that I will,
    But today I am still just a bill.

    Congressman: He signed you, Bill! Now you're a law!

    Bill: Oh yes!!!
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    Re: White House on Health Care and Illegals

    me too, i wanted to stay out of the sandbox

    but...

    hr3200 is a b-i-l-l

    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HR3200]America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]


    and two plus two make f-o-u-r

    unbelievably dumb

    president obama, i mean

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