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House plans to admonish Rep. Wilson over insult

Oh, a "finalized bill" :roll:

I told you, ALL of your semantic antics and attempts to rename are covered by "THE THING". Thats why I invented "THE THING". To account forand pre-emptively include any bait n switch or added word technicality ploys you might attempt.

The very nature of "THE THING" is that it eliminates your opportunity to employ your semantic antics.

Obama lied, on Wednesday, about what was or was not in "THE THING" on Wednesday.

No time travel, No semantic antics, so you are all out of escape moves.


There's nothing semantic about it. Do I really have to bust out the schoolhouse rock video for you about how a bill comes about since you don't seem to understand how the process works.

Preemptively include? This isn't a bait and switch. You're talking about a draft bill which has yet to come out of committee. Until then there's nothing set in stone. You seem to think that somehow Obama talking about something in the future that hasn't happened yet somehow applies to a bill that's always changing.

Obama didn't lie on wednesday even with your enforcement BS no illegal immigrants have gotten coverage from the health reform efforts. Until that happens there is no long. Keep trying to fancy it up. Your argument continues to lack merit.
 
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There's nothing semantic about it.

Of course there is, why do you think you are trying to sneak your little "finalized" modifier onto the term ?

If thats not semantic, what is ?
 
There's nothing semantic about it. Do I really have to bust out the jailhouse rock video for you about how a bill comes about since you don't seem to understand how the process works.

Preemptively include? This isn't a bait and switch. You're talking about a draft bill which has yet to come out of committee. Until then there's nothing set in stone. You seem to think that somehow Obama talking about something in the future that hasn't happened yet somehow applies to a bill that's always changing.

Obama didn't lie on wednesday even with your enforcement BS no illegal immigrants have gotten coverage from the health reform efforts. Until that happens there is no long. Keep trying to fancy it up. Your argument continues to lack merit.

SCHOOLHOUSE Rock, champ, and I think maybe you should watch it yourself if you think it refutes anything he said.

And yes, you ARE saying you can't criticize a bill until it's in "final form," which I suppose means it's being voted on.

But by the time the vote comes up, it's too late.

I really do NOT get where this idiotic notion that you can't criticize a bill until there's no possible chance that something might be changed come from. I just don't. It's one of the dumbest non-arguments I've seen in recent years.
 
SCHOOLHOUSE Rock, champ, and I think maybe you should watch it yourself if you think it refutes anything he said.

And yes, you ARE saying you can't criticize a bill until it's in "final form," which I suppose means it's being voted on.

But by the time the vote comes up, it's too late.

I really do NOT get where this idiotic notion that you can't criticize a bill until there's no possible chance that something might be changed come from. I just don't. It's one of the dumbest non-arguments I've seen in recent years.

Obviously you have no idea how a bill works then. It doesn't just get voted on once it comes out of committee. Usually the house and senate have several different bills they propose once they get out of committee, from there the bill is worked, amended and usually the house and senate try to come to a concensus then they vote on it. This is a far cry from the draft being kicked around in the finance committee.

There is plenty of possible chance to look at the bill when it comes out of committee it just goes to show you know less about legislation than you do about the english language which I have repeated to you over and over again. Just because an argument goes over your head doesn't make it dumb just something you cannot grasp. Hence why you keep trying to make it not about his statement but about some delusional do all end all amendment you are clueless as to how it works.
 
Obviously you have no idea how a bill works then. It doesn't just get voted on once it comes out of committee. Usually the house and senate have several different bills they propose once they get out of committee, from there the bill is worked, amended and usually the house and senate try to come to a concensus then they vote on it. This is a far cry from the draft being kicked around in the finance committee.

There is plenty of possible chance to look at the bill when it comes out of committee it just goes to show you know less about legislation than you do about the english language which I have repeated to you over and over again. Just because an argument goes over your head doesn't make it dumb just something you cannot grasp. Hence why you keep trying to make it not about his statement but about some delusional do all end all amendment you are clueless as to how it works.

Right, and your handle on comprehending what I wrote is rock-solid.

I'll make it simple.

Any bill in any written, introduced form is up for criticism on any level at any point along the legislative process. Period. An argument that you have to "wait" for anything is simply stupid.
 
Right, and your handle on comprehending what I wrote is rock-solid.

I'll make it simple.

Any bill in any written, introduced form is up for criticism on any level at any point along the legislative process. Period. An argument that you have to "wait" for anything is simply stupid.

No its not stupid when his statement was that people say that his health care efforts will insure illegal aliens and him saying that's false. For his statement to be a lie illegal aliens would have to be insured under his health care efforts. Its not rocket science harshaw.

And you guys aren't criticizing the draft bill you're calling the president a liar based on something that hasn't happened yet
 
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No its not stupid when his statement was that people say that his health care efforts will insure illegal aliens and him saying that's false. For his statement to be a lie illegal aliens would have to be insured under his health care efforts. Its not rocket science harshaw.

And you guys aren't criticizing the draft bill you're calling the president a liar based on something that hasn't happened yet

Semantic antics and timetravel shenanigans.

Obama lied, on Wednesday, about what was or not in "THE THING" on Wednesday.
 
Since when does the sargeant at arms work for the prez?

Never said he did.

The sgt. at arms is like any other police officer, but part of his job is to enforce house rules - Which prohibit outburst like Rep. Wilson's.
 
Never said he did.

The sgt. at arms is like any other police officer, but part of his job is to enforce house rules - Which prohibit outburst like Rep. Wilson's.
Wilson apologized to the president and the president could have had the Sgt. at arms remove him from the house after the out burst but he felt it wasn't necessary.

The rest of the congress needs to do what the president did and let this go.
You want to rephrase that?
 
Semantic antics and timetravel shenanigans.

Obama lied, on Wednesday, about what was or not in "THE THING" on Wednesday.

So in other words you can't prove he lied so you're going to keep acting like a child and say "he lied he lied he lied"

Nothing semantical about it. If you can't understand a statement and the only way it could be a lie then you really don't have much to say. Again until Illegal Immigrants get coverage under health care reform there was no lie no matter how much you keep wishing for there to be.
 
So in other words you can't prove he lied

The status of "THE THING" on Wednesday, and his false statements, regarding what was or was not in "THE THING", on the same Wednesday, prove it for me.
 
. Again until Illegal Immigrants get coverage under health care reform there was no lie no matter how much you keep wishing for there to be.

Riiiiiight

Obama: Legalize illegals to get them health care

Obama: Legalize illegals to get them health care - Washington Times

President Obama said this week that his health care plan won't cover illegal immigrants, but argued that's all the more reason to legalize them and ensure they eventually do get coverage.

He also staked out a position that anyone in the country legally should be covered - a major break with the 1996 welfare reform bill, which limited most federal public assistance programs only to citizens and longtime immigrants.

"Even though I do not believe we can extend coverage to those who are here illegally, I also don't simply believe we can simply ignore the fact that our immigration system is broken," Mr. Obama said Wednesday evening in a speech to the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute. "That's why I strongly support making sure folks who are here legally have access to affordable, quality health insurance under this plan, just like everybody else.

Mr. Obama added, "If anything, this debate underscores the necessity of passing comprehensive immigration reform and resolving the issue of 12 million undocumented people living and working in this country once and for all."
 
The status of "THE THING" on Wednesday, and his false statements, regarding what was or was not in "THE THING", on the same Wednesday, prove it for me.

"The status of the thing the thing the thing I swear he's lying because I say so"

Nothing false about it once again section 246 states non citizens will not be elligible.

In order for Obama's statement to be false they would have to actually have gotten insurance coverage which they haven't.

Furthermore Wilson is a hypocrite he voted to give funds for emergency care of illegal aliens in 2003.

I know this is hard for you to understand but saying that when people say that "our health reform efforts would help insure illegal aliens this too is false" in order for this statement to be a lie by Obama, Illegal Aliens would have to have gotten insured under the health reform efforts. Seeing as none have been you're lying.
 
You realize what I posted above that burns you to the ground right ?
 
You realize what I posted above that burns you to the ground right ?

You sure as hell didn't read your own article.

Even though I do not believe we can extend coverage to those who are here illegally, I also don't simply believe we can simply ignore the fact that our immigration system is broken," Mr. Obama said Wednesday evening in a speech to the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute. "That's why I strongly support making sure folks who are here legally have access to affordable, quality health insurance under this plan, just like everybody else.

Mr. Obama added, "If anything, this debate underscores the necessity of passing comprehensive immigration reform and resolving the issue of 12 million undocumented people living and working in this country once and for all."
 
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did any one else have to look up the word admonish:confused:
 
You sure as hell didn't read your own article.

Even though I do not believe we can extend coverage to those who are here illegally, I also don't simply believe we can simply ignore the fact that our immigration system is broken," Mr. Obama said Wednesday evening in a speech to the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute. "That's why I strongly support making sure folks who are here legally have access to affordable, quality health insurance under this plan, just like everybody else.

Mr. Obama added, "If anything, this debate underscores the necessity of passing comprehensive immigration reform and resolving the issue of 12 million undocumented people living and working in this country once and for all."

I certainly did.
 
I certainly did.

Immigration reform has been dogging multiple presidents for years including after Reagan granted amnesty. So he says we have to do something about immigration reform. Wow that's such a novel concept. Again his statement wasn't a lie and your article says nothing more than we need to fix our immigration policies.
 
Again his statement wasn't a lie

Obama lied, on Wednesday, about what was or was not in "THE THING", on Wednesday. Joe Wilson called him on it, and Obama and the Dems backed down.
 
Obama lied, on Wednesday, about what was or was not in "THE THING", on Wednesday. Joe Wilson called him on it, and Obama and the Dems backed down.

Translation:
"Obama lied I swear he lied omg I'm going to keep yelling at the top of my lungs that he lied even when he didn't maybe someone will believe me."

Again you've never proved his statement to be false. No illegal immigrants have received coverage under the health care reform since he gave that speech on wednesday
 
And they won't, thanks to Joe Wilson.

They never would have section 246 denied them coverage.

They have received coverage of their medical bills though because of Joe Wilson back in 2003. Back when Joe voted for the Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement and Modernization Act of 2003 which included section 1011 authorizing money to pay for emergency room care for illegal immigrants. Joe the hypocrite, your hero.
 
And they won't, thanks to Joe Wilson.

They were before the screamer regurgitated all over the floor of congress?

I don't think so...but keep :spin:
 
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