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House plans to admonish Rep. Wilson over insult

Re: pounding you flatter than unborn origami

So in other words you can't back up what you say.

The SAVE website backs itself up, and I already told you I am not doing your homework for you.
 
Simply False.

The THING Obama was talking about, was the current version of the bill, and he made a claim about that current version, that was a falsehood.

The farther you go to defend this falsehood, the worse you and Obama look.

There is no current bill there's a draft that hasn't made it out of committee. Fancy it up however you like but the plain and simple truth of it is that the draft of the bill is still in committee. You're the one making yourself look bad here speculating on a nonfinalized bill
 
Re: pounding you flatter than unborn origami

The SAVE website backs itself up, and I already told you I am not doing your homework for you.

You made a point but refuse to back it up. I'm not doing your research for you
 
Lets make this easier so you don't sound ridiculous. How many illegal immigrants have been covered by this bill?
 
There is no current bill there's a draft

Move your goal posts, change your terms, you still can't escape the FACT that at the time Obama made his claims about the THING, the SAVE provisions were not on the THING.
 
Move your goal posts, change your terms, you still can't escape the FACT that at the time Obama made his claims about the THING, the SAVE provisions were not on the THING.

What bill was Obama talking about?
 
Move your goal posts, change your terms, you still can't escape the FACT that at the time Obama made his claims about the THING, the SAVE provisions were not on the THING.

I'm not moving the goal posts... you are. How many illegal aliens have been covered by this bill? At the time Obama made his claim he was talking about future tense so again how many illegal immigrants have been covered?
 
You two just make your side look worse and worse with your childish avoidance of the facts.

If you don't know what Obama was talking about in his Wednesday address to Congress, then who needs to take your posts seriously ?
 
You two just make your side look worse and worse with your childish avoidance of the facts.

If you don't know what Obama was talking about in his Wednesday address to Congress, then who needs to take your posts seriously ?


Why don't you just tell me? What bill was Obama talking about?
 
You two just make your side look worse and worse with your childish avoidance of the facts.

If you don't know what Obama was talking about in his Wednesday address to Congress, then who needs to take your posts seriously ?

You're the one sounding foolish. Once again which part of his statement: "There are also those who claim that our reform efforts would insure illegal immigrants this too is false" is a lie?

Until an actual illegal immigrant gets insurance through the reform you have no leg to stand on. You can't call something that hasn't happened yet a lie. A lie is something definitive that can be proven. So now you've just got spanked.

Run along:2wave:

Do you want to claim now that your logic relies on thought crime?

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Keep Dancing Kids.

The administration / Dems proved your side wrong when they caved and added the SAVE provisions.
 
Keep Dancing Kids.

The administration / Dems proved your side wrong when they caved and added the SAVE provisions.

Nice to see you polished off your ballet slippers. So in other words you concede that Obama wasn't lying. Again there's no proof that save wouldn't have been in the final bill. And even then there is nothing to stop people who are smart enough to cheat the system from cheating the system
 
So in other words you concede that Obama wasn't lying.

How bout you stop trying to make up things and claim I said them ?

Obama got caught lying, and as a result, had to put the SAVE provisions back in.
 
How bout you stop trying to make up things and claim I said them ?

Obama got caught lying, and as a result, had to put the SAVE provisions back in.

No Obama wasn't lying as that is yet to still be seen. There's no proof save wouldn't have been in the bill that is to come out of committee. Once again until an illegal immigrant actually gets insured there is no lie. Now you're trying to change the definition of a lie.
 
How bout you stop trying to make up things and claim I said them ?

Obama got caught lying, and as a result, had to put the SAVE provisions back in.


Sorry, what bill was that again? You know, so I can go to THOMAS and check the legislative history and see it?
 
No Obama wasn't lying as that is yet to still be seen.

Simply false. He lied Wednesday. It is a fact that already happened.

It is corroborated by the fact that days later he had to announce that the SAVE provisions were going in.
 
Sorry, what bill was that again?

If you don't know what Obama was talking about last Wednesday, it is your problem.

If you want to keep up your semantics dodge, then by all means, continue, make your side look worse . . .
 
Simply false. He lied Wednesday. It is a fact that already happened.

It is corroborated by the fact that days later he had to announce that the SAVE provisions were going in.

Round and round about you go where you stop nobody knows. It's a fact it has already happened? Really? Where has any illegal immigrant been given insurance under this bill. If you can't prove that then Obama wasn't lying.

Again do you have any proof that Save wasn't going to be in the final bill. The bill was still being worked in committee the more you keep tap dancing the more foolish you look
 
House plans to admonish Rep. Wilson over insult - Yahoo! News



Sometimes my party pisses me off. There is no reason to do this, no point to it, and is just a waste of time.

I hope he doesn't apologize. It was after he called out the President that the White House decided to require verification for Illegals getting federal health insurance. I mean, yes, Wilson needs to respect the President. But the President needs to respect us and not lie to us. He needs to remember that he works for us, not the other way around. You know what happens to employees who lie to me?
 
If you don't know what Obama was talking about last Wednesday, it is your problem.

If you want to keep up your semantics dodge, then by all means, continue, make your side look worse . . .

I don't think you even know what you are talking about let Obama. Again he stated "there are some who say that the health care measures we are proposing will insure illegal immigrants.. that too is false" So again which part of his statement is false? How many illegal immigrants have gotten insurance under the health care reform measures? You're the one dodging and not making any sense.
 
I hope he doesn't apologize. It was after he called out the President that the White House decided to require verification for Illegals getting federal health insurance. I mean, yes, Wilson needs to respect the President. But the President needs to respect us and not lie to us. He needs to remember that he works for us, not the other way around. You know what happens to employees who lie to me?

Other than the fact that Obama's statement wasn't a lie. Until actual illegal immigrants get insurance from the health reform his statement isn't a lie.
 
If you don't know what Obama was talking about last Wednesday, it is your problem.

If you want to keep up your semantics dodge, then by all means, continue, make your side look worse . . .


you're right, I've got a big problem with what you're saying. If you will please tell me what bill you're talking about?
 
If you will please tell me what bill you're talking about?

I won't. I am quite happy to leave you in your ignorance. I don't feel any need to educate you further. Do your own homework.
 
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