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    Re: House plans to admonish Rep. Wilson over insult

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwar View Post
    COMPLETE FALSEHOOD.

    Joe Wilson said it over and over on the floor of the house when he was sponsoring the amendment to add the SAVE provisions.
    Did he say that to the president... no so his statement calling the president a liar is inaccurate. Keep dancing void

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    Re: House plans to admonish Rep. Wilson over insult

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Are ICE agents trained the same as standard cops?
    Are pediatric specialists sometimes called into an ER ?

    Do you think a border patrol agent is better trained than Chicago SWAT ?

    You are trying to dip into irrelevant semantics here, and it is obvious.

    Doctors, are more expensive to hire than cops.

    Understand that my use of those two general terms, is for the general comparison. Do you think you can find a law enforcement officer, on the beat, with any department, that takes home more than a practicing physician of any specialty ?

    Until you can, what point are you making here ?
    Last edited by Voidwar; 09-12-09 at 05:55 PM.

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    Re: House plans to admonish Rep. Wilson over insult

    Paragraph 205(b)(3)(B)(i)(I) goes on to say that an "Exchange-eligible individual" is also an individual who "has applied for, and been determined eligible for affordability credits..."

    Section 242(a)(1) - "Affordable Credit Eligibility Individual". It clearly states here that only those individuals who are "lawfully" in the U.S. will receive credits toward payment of their health insurance in the HIE.

    Section 246 - "No Federal Payment for Undocumented Aliens" specifically states "Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States."

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    Re: House plans to admonish Rep. Wilson over insult

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    , deportation costs, shelter, food, etc. It eventually adds up.
    No, it doesn't. They can bring a lunch

    I don't plan to provide these criminals with ANY creature comforts.

    All these criminals have coming is an escort to the border and a kick in the ass.

    You want food and water for your free ride back to your country of origin, you bring it.

    So , to wrap up my response, no, I don't propose supplying anything more than the ICE agents the Vans and the zip-ties.

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    Re: House plans to admonish Rep. Wilson over insult

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwar View Post
    Are pediatric specialists sometimes called into an ER ?

    Do you think a border patrol agent is better trained than Chicago SWAT ?

    You are trying to dip into irrelevant semantics here, and it is obvious.

    Doctors, are more expensive to hire than cops.

    Understand that my use of those two general terms, is for the general comparison. Do you think you can find a law enforcement officer, on the beat, with any department that takes home more than a practicing phsician of any specialty ?

    Until you can, what point are you making here ?
    You're saying its cheaper to deport illegals in the millions as opposed to the few who may cheat the medical system

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    Re: House plans to admonish Rep. Wilson over insult

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwar View Post
    No, it doesn't. They can bring a lunch

    I don't plan to provide these criminals with ANY creature comforts.

    All these criminals have coming is an escort to the border and a kick in the ass.

    You want food and water for your free ride back to your country of origin, you bring it.

    So , to wrap up my response, no, I don't propose supplying anything more than the ICE agents the Vans and the zip-ties.
    Even criminals get shelter, food, etc. So in otherwords you're saying its cheaper to deport millions than the few who get through the medical system.

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    Re: House plans to admonish Rep. Wilson over insult

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Paragraph 205(b)(3)(B)(i)(I) goes on to say that an "Exchange-eligible individual" is also an individual who "has applied for, and been determined eligible for affordability credits..."

    Section 242(a)(1) - "Affordable Credit Eligibility Individual". It clearly states here that only those individuals who are "lawfully" in the U.S. will receive credits toward payment of their health insurance in the HIE.

    Section 246 - "No Federal Payment for Undocumented Aliens" specifically states "Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States."
    And HOW WILL THAT BE ENFORCED ?

    You can claim it all you want. With no enforcement mechanism, the claim is a lie.

    If it wasn't a lie, why is the administration announcing they are putting the SAVE provisions in ?

    Answer that question, rather than fall back on the discreditted bill in question.
    Last edited by Voidwar; 09-12-09 at 05:53 PM.

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    Re: House plans to admonish Rep. Wilson over insult

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Even criminals get shelter, food, etc.
    They are citizens. I might actually care about their well being, I might even want them healthy upon their release into American Society. What do I care about the health of a criminal invader whom I never want back here ?

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    Re: House plans to admonish Rep. Wilson over insult

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwar View Post
    And HOW WILL THAT BE ENFORCED ?

    You can claim it all you want. With no enforcement mechanism, the claim is a lie.

    If it wasn't a lie, why is the administration announcing they are putting the SAVE provisions in ? Answer that question, rather than fall back on the discreditted bill in question.
    There's nothing discredited about it. How are the save provisions going to prevent people smart enough to cheat the system? The intent of the bill is to cover only citizens. There's nothing in the bill from covering nonhumans too since you want to take it to the extreme. Where's the enforcement?

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    Re: House plans to admonish Rep. Wilson over insult

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwar View Post
    They are citizens. I might actually care about their well being, I might even want them healthy upon their release into American Society. What do I care about the health of a criminal invader whom I never want back here ?
    What about residents who are noncitizens who try to get care deport them as well?

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