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    Re: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/10/rep-wilson-outburst-leads-senate-dems-

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Good god now you're going back to the 1st amendment again after accusing obama of violating it last night. What part of the house making rules in article 1 section 5 do you not understand?

    edit: Can a mod fix the subject title?
    This was not a house session it was a joint session. But regardless what do the rules say about stating bold faced lies to the American public on national t.v.?

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    Re: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/10/rep-wilson-outburst-leads-senate-dems-

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Ya like the Dems were respectful when they booed Bush over the social security issue? Mmm that's good hypocrisy. Sorry but I don't respect liars not matter who they are.
    Oh yes, Bush wanted to privitize SS and dump all that money onto Wall Street just before it crashed. It was a bad idea. I am not sure how this bad idea makes anyone a liar?

    Reforming Health Care, bringing cost under control and allowing for something near and dear to Republicans -- fiscal responsibility -- is paramount to our countries long term health.

    If Obama were talkimg about privitizing the Pentagon's budget and dumping the money onto Wall Street as a stimulus to poor, down trodden bankers, he would rightly also be booed.

    Of course, since nothing in government works well, not even our military (bang up job those 'private' contractors ala Blackwater are doing) maybe we should let Wall Street control the Petangon's budget?

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    Re: Rep. Wilson Outburst Leads Senate Dems to Close Loophole in Health Reform Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-bipartisan View Post
    Stop avoding the question, it's simple, do you think healthcare isn't important, yes or no?
    Sure it is, which makes me wonder why the new wonderful health care bill is going to take three+ years to get cranked up.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Rep. Wilson Outburst Leads Senate Dems to Close Loophole in Health Reform Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-bipartisan View Post
    Stop avoding the question, it's simple, do you think healthcare isn't important, yes or no?
    Of course health care is important, so is the economy and the DEFICIT. According to polling by Rasmussen and others, Americans by far are more worried about the deficit than they are of health care.

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    Re: Rep. Wilson Outburst Leads Senate Dems to Close Loophole in Health Reform Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Sure it is, which makes me wonder why the new wonderful health care bill is going to take three+ years to get cranked up.
    Well, I see you are a Army vet. So tell me, how long did it take us to field Stryker Briades? The M1A2 or Bradley A3? Between 3-5 years, and that was just to upgrade Brigades that were already using earlier models of the armored vehicles and the Stryker Brigades took the better part of a decade.

    However, the day after a bill is passed the ENTIRE heath care industry is supposed to fundamentally change its organizational functions at the drop of a hat?

    That is your expectation? Well, I would love to see your proposal as to how that would happen. By all means, illuminate us.

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    Re: Rep. Wilson Outburst Leads Senate Dems to Close Loophole in Health Reform Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Rightarrow View Post
    Of course health care is important, so is the economy and the DEFICIT. According to polling by Rasmussen and others, Americans by far are more worried about the deficit than they are of health care.
    So we should let Health Care costs continue to rise unchecked? That is certainly fiscally responsible?

    I believe you actually have to have a plan to reduce the deficit, which we are all worried about, and avoiding the major drivers of the deficit is no way to 'tackle' the problem.

    We call this smoke and mirrors.

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    Re: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/10/rep-wilson-outburst-leads-senate-dems-

    Quote Originally Posted by gree0232 View Post
    Oh yes, Bush wanted to privitize SS and dump all that money onto Wall Street just before it crashed. It was a bad idea. I am not sure how this bad idea makes anyone a liar?
    I don't see any real difference between calling someone a liar and booing. And what's even more troubling is that you people are trying to make this about Wilson when it should be about Obama stating a bold faced and egregious lie to the American people on national t.v..

    Reforming Health Care, bringing cost under control and allowing for something near and dear to Republicans -- fiscal responsibility -- is paramount to our countries long term health.

    Insuring illegal aliens when we're 11.5 TRILLION dollars in debt should be bloody criminal.

    If Obama were talkimg about privitizing the Pentagon's budget and dumping the money onto Wall Street as a stimulus to poor, down trodden bankers, he would rightly also be booed.
    He stated a bold faced lie on national t.v. and was rightly called a liar.

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    Re: Rep. Wilson Outburst Leads Senate Dems to Close Loophole in Health Reform Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Sure it is, which makes me wonder why the new wonderful health care bill is going to take three+ years to get cranked up.
    So if it's important why do you think there shouldn't be a joint session of Congress about it?

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    Re: Rep. Wilson Outburst Leads Senate Dems to Close Loophole in Health Reform Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Rightarrow View Post
    Of course health care is important, so is the economy and the DEFICIT. According to polling by Rasmussen and others, Americans by far are more worried about the deficit than they are of health care.
    I wasn't talking to you and the wasn't the context I asked it in your post is completely irrelevant to mine.

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    Re: Rep. Wilson Outburst Leads Senate Dems to Close Loophole in Health Reform Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by gree0232 View Post
    So we should let Health Care costs continue to rise unchecked? That is certainly fiscally responsible?

    I believe you actually have to have a plan to reduce the deficit, which we are all worried about, and avoiding the major drivers of the deficit is no way to 'tackle' the problem.

    We call this smoke and mirrors.
    I think everyone outside of a small portion in the GOP acknowledge that health care needs reform and prices are too high. However, the problem is, alternate theories to Obama Care don't get any press so people don't know about them. Here is a way to fix health care without increasing the size of government and the national debt. And it's from a doctor who has practiced medicene for over 30 years:

    Here is the URL:[nomedia]www.youtube.com/watch?v=foXQbmZxWYY[/nomedia]

    Secondly, the impact this bill will have on the defecit is a MAJOR concern, equal to the stress the illegal Bush wars have been. How can Obama stand there with a straight face and say this will be paid for by decreasing the waste of Medicare and Medicaid, when the government created the mess in both of the programs that they run!! If you bring your car to a mechanic and you get it back in worse condition than when you left it, do you bring it back to the same mechanic to fix it again? What kind of sense does that make??
    Last edited by SicSemperTyrannis; 09-11-09 at 01:57 AM. Reason: Video embed didn't work. I don't know what I'm doing basically.

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