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    Joe Wilson Hands Obama Big Victory

    Last nights speech could not have gone better for Obama. His salesmanship, as usual, was spot on. It was his most substantive communication on health care. And Joe Wilson literally handed him a victory by his outrageous, petty and crude behaviour.

    Wilson's behaviour couldn't have been better if it was scripted. The White House was looking for a foil, and I'm sure they are happy to see Wilson step up and volunteer.

    To be sure, Wilson's comments themselves really don't matter. But of course, the wackiness of it, the conflict within it, and his "I'm sorry but the Republican leadership made me apologize, apology," is great theater.

    The momentum has totally shifted towards Obama according to some polls taken after the speech. Now, I do not know if it will last, because as we all know per the Wilson comment, one small outburst, event, or comment can turn an entire effort into compost.
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    Re: Joe Wilson Hands Obama Big Victory

    Joe Wilson said what everyone else already knows: PBO is lying through his teeth when he says that Obamacare won't cover illegals. Unless he plans on giving amnesty to 20 million illegals.
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    Re: Joe Wilson Hands Obama Big Victory

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Limt View Post
    Last nights speech could not have gone better for Obama. His salesmanship, as usual, was spot on. It was his most substantive communication on health care. And Joe Wilson literally handed him a victory by his outrageous, petty and crude behaviour.

    Wilson's behaviour couldn't have been better if it was scripted. The White House was looking for a foil, and I'm sure they are happy to see Wilson step up and volunteer.

    To be sure, Wilson's comments themselves really don't matter. But of course, the wackiness of it, the conflict within it, and his "I'm sorry but the Republican leadership made me apologize, apology," is great theater.

    The momentum has totally shifted towards Obama according to some polls taken after the speech. Now, I do not know if it will last, because as we all know per the Wilson comment, one small outburst, event, or comment can turn an entire effort into compost.
    You have got to be kidding right? By the way, that fake poll was extremely weighted towards Democrats and Obama supporters than it was scientific. Hardly scientific by any stretch; but it is understandable when you see the mainstream media carrying water for this pathetic "post turtle" even to the farcical extent to write stories that the recession is over.

    You just can't fabricate the level of denial, lies and distortions it takes to be Liberal these days.


    CBS Poll: As is often the case in Presidential addresses, Americans who watched the speech tonight were more likely to be from the President’s political party – 38% were Democrats, 26% were Republicans and 36% were independents.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/Ad...in;contentBody

    CNN of course won’t share the specifics of their poll because they know they would be a laughing stock like CBS who is at least willing to be honest they are carrying water for this pathetic joke of a Presidency and Administration of corrupt dimwitted thugs.
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    Re: Joe Wilson Hands Obama Big Victory

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Joe Wilson said what everyone else already knows: PBO is lying through his teeth when he says that Obamacare won't cover illegals. Unless he plans on giving amnesty to 20 million illegals.
    Yes, I'm sure thats true...everyone knows it. What was I thinking?


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    Re: Joe Wilson Hands Obama Big Victory

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    You have got to be kidding right?

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    The momentum has shifted towards Obama.

    Wilson played the role of a foil perfectly.

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    Re: Joe Wilson Hands Obama Big Victory

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Limt View Post
    The momentum has shifted towards Obama.

    Wilson played the role of a foil perfectly.
    Wallowing in self induced denial doesn't make it reality. But you go ahead and keep kidding yourself.

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    Re: Joe Wilson Hands Obama Big Victory

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    You have got to be kidding right? By the way, that fake poll was extremely weighted towards Democrats and Obama supporters than it was scientific. Hardly scientific by any stretch; but it is understandable when you see the mainstream media carrying water for this pathetic "post turtle" even to the farcical extent to write stories that the recession is over.

    You just can't fabricate the level of denial, lies and distortions it takes to be Liberal these days.


    CBS Poll: As is often the case in Presidential addresses, Americans who watched the speech tonight were more likely to be from the President’s political party – 38% were Democrats, 26% were Republicans and 36% were independents.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/Ad...in;contentBody

    CNN of course won’t share the specifics of their poll because they know they would be a laughing stock like CBS who is at least willing to be honest they are carrying water for this pathetic joke of a Presidency and Administration of corrupt dimwitted thugs.
    You just make stuff up, right? I mean, that's the only explanation

    Not only did CNN share the specifics, but someone posted it here last night. The questions, the distribution of party affiliation of respondents, all of it.

    And, the poll showed, that of those who watched -- support increased.

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    Re: Joe Wilson Hands Obama Big Victory

    No doubt plenty of citizens on the otherside see it differently. Considering that Joe Wilson's outburst is a precedent in modern times, many might think what would cause someone to burst out like that other than the statement by Obama must have been a huge lie or at least extremely contraversial. Secondly, it's more believeable that a congressman knows what's in the bill than the president.
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    Re: Joe Wilson Hands Obama Big Victory

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Wallowing in self induced denial doesn't make it reality. But you go ahead and keep kidding yourself.
    You can keep on trying to make this personal and try hard to inject me into the debate, but it will not work.

    Personal jabs don't impress me, don't advance the discussion and certainly isn't original.
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    Re: Joe Wilson Hands Obama Big Victory

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    No doubt plenty of citizens on the otherside see it differently. Considering the outburst is a precedent in modern times, many might think what would cause someone to burst out like that other than the statement by Obama must have been a huge lie or at least extremely contraversial.
    Of course, the above bolded statement is hogwash.

    Don't try to make excuses for an outrageous breach of decorum, by arguing that, 'since it never happened before, it must be telling!'

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