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Joe Wilson Hands Obama Big Victory

The bill does not in any way grant illegals government sponsored health care. If someone feels that there needs tobe stronger language agaisnt illegals getting government sponsored healthcare than suggest that.

What if Joe Wilson does that, and Dems in Congress vote it off ? :roll:

This already happened. That's why Joe lost his temper, as he was the one who sponsored the enforcement provisions.

and now the White House admits he was right . . .

WH on health care, illegal immigrants - First Read - msnbc.com

The bullet points sent tonight by the White House:

Undocumented immigrants would not be able to buy private insurance on the exchange. Those who are lawfully present in this country would be able to participate.

Undocumented immigrants would be able to buy insurance in the non-exchange private market, just as they do today. That market will shrink as the exchange takes hold, but it will still exist and will be subject to reforms such as the bans on pre-existing conditions and caps.

Verification will be required when purchasing health insurance on the exchange. One option is the SAVE program (Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements) which states currently use to make sure that undocumented immigrants don't participate in safety-net programs for which they are ineligible.

There would be no change in the law that requires emergency rooms to treat people who need emergency care, including undocumented immigrants. There is already a federal grant program that compensates states for emergency room costs associated with treatment of undocumented immigrants, a provision sponsored by a Republican lawmaker.
 
I do not belive for a second that you guys are motivated to make things harder for illegals to get overnment services

Go look through the Immigration forum circa 2008 and you will see me there.

MY own desire w.r.t. illegal aliens is MASSIVE DEPORTATION.

I want every illegal kicked out. (literally driven out with repeated foot impact is fine too, but I think a million zip-ties and a hundred used vans is more cost effective.)
 
I want every illegal kicked out. (literally driven out with repeated foot impact is fine too, but I think a million zip-ties and a hundred used vans is more cost effective.)

Not even close to practical.

And borderline racist.
 
Sez You. Anyhow, enforcing the law is not done for practicality, but for principle.



What race did I mention ?

Do you have some race in YOUR head that you think this pertains to ?

You are living in a fantasy. It is not practical. It will never happen, can never happen and should not happen.

Do you think I don't know what race you were mentioning when you said you wanted to walk them back, or whatever disgusting fantasy you had.

What you said was deplotable. You should be ashamed of yourself.

"literally driven out with repeated foot impact is fine too, but I think a million zip-ties and a hundred used vans is more cost effective"

Freakin' awful thing to say.

I never knew someone could have such contempt for their fellow man.
 
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You are living in a fantasy. It is not practical. It will never happen, can never happen and should not happen.

Sez You. It is the LAW. The prescribed penalty for illegal presence in the U.S. is deportation.

Do you think I don't know what race you were mentioning

I know for a fact that I didn't mention ANY race.

YOU are the one who brought race into it, so whatever pre-concieved racial biases you are bringing to the argument, they do not reflect on me on little bit.
 
Sez You. It is the LAW. The prescribed penalty for illegal presence in he U.S. is deportation.

Never, ever happen.

You have a problem with Latinos and its obvious.
 
I know for a fact that I didn't mention ANY race.

YOU are the one who brought race into it, so whatever pre-concieved racial biases you are bringing to the argument, they do not reflect on me on little bit.

You didn't have to.

It was more than obvious.

"literally driven out with repeated foot impact is fine too, but I think a million zip-ties and a hundred used vans is more cost effective"

Absolutely disgusting comment.
 
You have a problem with Latinos and its obvious.

You are the one talking about race pal, not me.

My comments on this thread have been about illegal aliens.

What has become obvious, is that YOU think illegals and Latinos are one in the same.

You have a problem with Latinos and its obvious.
 
You are the one talking about race pal, not me.

My comments on this thread have been about illegal aliens.

What has become obvious, is that YOU think illegals and Latinos are one in the same.

Do you really think you're going to successfully manage this issue away from your disgusting comment? Do you realy think bolding "You" is going to somehow steer me off course?

I know who you were talking about.

You know who you were talking about.

The issue isn't me, no matter how hard you try to make it about me

The issue is your beastly comment. No more, less.

"literally driven out with repeated foot impact is fine too, but I think a million zip-ties and a hundred used vans is more cost effective".

How can anyone- anyone - who wants to be taken seriously make such a foul comment towards their fellow man?
 
Do you really think you're going to successfully manage this issue away from your disgusting comment?

Do you think you scare me when you use the phrase "disgusting comment" ?

You don't. You also don't create any worry on my part that your racial notions apply to me.

I know who you were talking about.

So does everyone else. Illegal Aliens.

Its right there for the quoting all the way thru the thread.

You know who you were talking about.

I certainly do, being the only human on earth privy to MY motivations.

The issue isn't me, no matter how hard you try to make it about me

You are trying to make it about ME, with an attempted racial smear that you just can't get to stick.

The issue is your beastly comment. No more, less.

"literally driven out with repeated foot impact is fine too, but I think a million zip-ties and a hundred used vans is more cost effective".

How can anyone- anyone - who wants to be taken seriously make such a foul comment towards their fellow man?

Anyone who believes in National Sovereignty and rule of law has no choice but to both take me seriously, and agree with me.

Illegal invaders driven out with physical force.

Absolutely appropriate and absolutely deserved.
 
You are trying to make it about ME, with an attempted racial smear that you just can't get to stick.



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No one takes you seriosuly because you are not a serious person.

However, you are absolutely right that this is about you. I'm glad you got something right.

This is about you and your ugly comment.

Let me repeat it again...""literally driven out with repeated foot impact is fine too, but I think a million zip-ties and a hundred used vans is more cost effective"

Absolutely abominable.

Go ahead, make another post. Try and save the last crumbling piece of creditibility you may have enjoyed.

Its all you have left.
 
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No one takes you seriosuly because you are not a serious person.

Did you just get done polling "everyone" ?

Or are you completely talking out of your rectum ?

However, you are absolutely right that this is about you. I'm glad you got something right.

Anyone who can read can go look and see that that is not what I said.

Here is what I said, I wonder why you got it wrong when its right there on the same page . .

You are trying to make it about ME, with an attempted racial smear that you just can't get to stick.

Could it be that you tried to recast my statements in the crafting of your own falsehood ?

This is about you and your ugly comment.

Yawn. Not a thing ugly about driving an illegal invader out with physical force.

It is, exactly, what an illegal invader has coming.

Absolutely abominable.

Do you think this inflammatory yet inaccurate term scares me any more than "disgusting " ?
 
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No one takes you seriosuly because you are not a serious person.

I wonder if they take you seriously when you fling about accusations that you can't back in the least.

I wonder if they can take you seriously after you volunteer your own latent racism into the discussion.

You have a problem with Latinos and its obvious.
 
I wonder if they take you seriously when you fling about accusations that you can't back in the least.

I wonder if they can take you seriously after you volunteer your own latent racism into the discussion.

How desperate you must be.

""literally driven out with repeated foot impact is fine too, but I think a million zip-ties and a hundred used vans is more cost effective"

Your words.

Your feelings.

Your ugliness.
 
You remain the third right-leaning poster today who has tried to interject personal insults into this thread by classlessly and lazily, calling me names.

You do not impress me.

Nor do they impress any of us who can think. Personal insults are all they have so naturally, that's what they use.
Don't let it bother you.......Allot of us understand the importance of what Joe Wilson's childish tantrum has done. He has almost guaranteed public support for Obama's bill. Thanks Joe!;) (& congrats to Rob Miller who will be the new Congressman from your district next year & yet another GOP seat to go Democratic!)
 
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Who cares about the issues... OBAMA WINS!

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You certainly do not.

If I didn't care about the issues, I would be on here avoiding what Obama actually said, and arguing about some meaningless thing a republican shouted out during his speech.

Carry on.

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If I didn't care about the issues, I would be on here avoiding what Obama actually said, and arguing about some meaningless thing a republican shouted out during his speech.

Carry on.

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And what is it exactly you want to talk about?
 
This is getting ridiculous. Now CNN is saying Wilson atacked dear leader for racial reasons.

They just dont get the opposition at all do they?

I am sure somewhere there is someone motivated to oppose the administration for racial reasons but why even bother?

The policies and agenda are far more than enough reason to oppose the actions of the current administration.
 
This is getting ridiculous. Now CNN is saying Wilson atacked dear leader for racial reasons.

They just dont get the opposition at all do they?

I am sure somewhere there is someone motivated to oppose the administration for racial reasons but why even bother?

The policies and agenda are far more than enough reason to oppose the actions of the current administration.

Race has become the democrats default response to anyone who dares oppose the Messiah.

It's beyond pathetic.

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How desperate you must be.

From your pathetic attempt to make me feel guilty for deporting illegal aliens ? Not one bit.

""literally driven out with repeated foot impact is fine too, but I think a million zip-ties and a hundred used vans is more cost effective"

Your words.

Your feelings.

Your ugliness.

I know what I said, and it is not ugly at all. Keep quoting it, I'll type it again if you want me to, as I stand by it 100%.

Deportation is what illegal aliens have coming.

A swift kick in the pants is what illegal aliens have coming.

Your whiny little attempt at guilting me out for supporting the legally prescribed penalty is laughable.

Your unsuccessful attempted racial smear that you just couldn't get to stick has apparently been abandoned, and now that the law is on my side , , ,

How desperate must YOU be ?
 
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