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    Re: Joe Wilson Hands Obama Big Victory

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    The bill does not in any way grant illegals government sponsored health care. If someone feels that there needs tobe stronger language agaisnt illegals getting government sponsored healthcare than suggest that.
    What if Joe Wilson does that, and Dems in Congress vote it off ?

    This already happened. That's why Joe lost his temper, as he was the one who sponsored the enforcement provisions.

    and now the White House admits he was right . . .

    WH on health care, illegal immigrants - First Read - msnbc.com

    The bullet points sent tonight by the White House:

    Undocumented immigrants would not be able to buy private insurance on the exchange. Those who are lawfully present in this country would be able to participate.

    Undocumented immigrants would be able to buy insurance in the non-exchange private market, just as they do today. That market will shrink as the exchange takes hold, but it will still exist and will be subject to reforms such as the bans on pre-existing conditions and caps.

    Verification will be required when purchasing health insurance on the exchange. One option is the SAVE program (Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements) which states currently use to make sure that undocumented immigrants don't participate in safety-net programs for which they are ineligible.

    There would be no change in the law that requires emergency rooms to treat people who need emergency care, including undocumented immigrants. There is already a federal grant program that compensates states for emergency room costs associated with treatment of undocumented immigrants, a provision sponsored by a Republican lawmaker.

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    Re: Joe Wilson Hands Obama Big Victory

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    I do not belive for a second that you guys are motivated to make things harder for illegals to get overnment services
    Go look through the Immigration forum circa 2008 and you will see me there.

    MY own desire w.r.t. illegal aliens is MASSIVE DEPORTATION.

    I want every illegal kicked out. (literally driven out with repeated foot impact is fine too, but I think a million zip-ties and a hundred used vans is more cost effective.)

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    Re: Joe Wilson Hands Obama Big Victory

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwar View Post

    I want every illegal kicked out. (literally driven out with repeated foot impact is fine too, but I think a million zip-ties and a hundred used vans is more cost effective.)
    Not even close to practical.

    And borderline racist.

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    Question Re: Joe Wilson Hands Obama Big Victory

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Limt View Post
    Not even close to practical.
    Sez You. Anyhow, enforcing the law is not done for practicality, but for principle.

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Limt View Post
    And borderline racist.
    What race did I mention ?

    Do you have some race in YOUR head that you think this pertains to ?

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    Re: Joe Wilson Hands Obama Big Victory

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwar View Post
    Sez You. Anyhow, enforcing the law is not done for practicality, but for principle.



    What race did I mention ?

    Do you have some race in YOUR head that you think this pertains to ?
    You are living in a fantasy. It is not practical. It will never happen, can never happen and should not happen.

    Do you think I don't know what race you were mentioning when you said you wanted to walk them back, or whatever disgusting fantasy you had.

    What you said was deplotable. You should be ashamed of yourself.

    "literally driven out with repeated foot impact is fine too, but I think a million zip-ties and a hundred used vans is more cost effective"

    Freakin' awful thing to say.

    I never knew someone could have such contempt for their fellow man.
    Last edited by The_Limt; 09-12-09 at 09:47 PM.

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    Re: Joe Wilson Hands Obama Big Victory

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Limt View Post
    You are living in a fantasy. It is not practical. It will never happen, can never happen and should not happen.
    Sez You. It is the LAW. The prescribed penalty for illegal presence in the U.S. is deportation.

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Limt View Post
    Do you think I don't know what race you were mentioning
    I know for a fact that I didn't mention ANY race.

    YOU are the one who brought race into it, so whatever pre-concieved racial biases you are bringing to the argument, they do not reflect on me on little bit.

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    Re: Joe Wilson Hands Obama Big Victory

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwar View Post
    Sez You. It is the LAW. The prescribed penalty for illegal presence in he U.S. is deportation.
    Never, ever happen.

    You have a problem with Latinos and its obvious.

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    Re: Joe Wilson Hands Obama Big Victory

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwar View Post
    I know for a fact that I didn't mention ANY race.

    YOU are the one who brought race into it, so whatever pre-concieved racial biases you are bringing to the argument, they do not reflect on me on little bit.
    You didn't have to.

    It was more than obvious.

    "literally driven out with repeated foot impact is fine too, but I think a million zip-ties and a hundred used vans is more cost effective"

    Absolutely disgusting comment.

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    Arrow Re: Joe Wilson Hands Obama Big Victory

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Limt View Post
    You have a problem with Latinos and its obvious.
    You are the one talking about race pal, not me.

    My comments on this thread have been about illegal aliens.

    What has become obvious, is that YOU think illegals and Latinos are one in the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Limt View Post
    You have a problem with Latinos and its obvious.

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    Re: Joe Wilson Hands Obama Big Victory

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwar View Post
    You are the one talking about race pal, not me.

    My comments on this thread have been about illegal aliens.

    What has become obvious, is that YOU think illegals and Latinos are one in the same.
    Do you really think you're going to successfully manage this issue away from your disgusting comment? Do you realy think bolding "You" is going to somehow steer me off course?

    I know who you were talking about.

    You know who you were talking about.

    The issue isn't me, no matter how hard you try to make it about me

    The issue is your beastly comment. No more, less.

    "literally driven out with repeated foot impact is fine too, but I think a million zip-ties and a hundred used vans is more cost effective".

    How can anyone- anyone - who wants to be taken seriously make such a foul comment towards their fellow man?

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