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    Re: Joe Wilson Hands Obama Big Victory

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Mr. Wilson called out Mr. Obama only when he said this,

    Wilson's outburst immediately followed Obama's statement: "There are also those who claim that our reform effort will insure illegal immigrants. This, too, is false. The reforms I'm proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally."

    House Minority Leader John Boehner said Thursday that, according to a Congressional Research Service report, illegal immigrants would indeed be covered, defending Wilson's assertion even though he called the manner in which he delivered it "inappropriate."

    So let me see who was in the wrong hmm I see Mr. Obama lied to the American People and Mr. Wilson called him on since he knew what had been in the various Bills.
    WAIT ONE NANO SECOND HERE. We are expected to belive the words of a partisan John Boehner !! I do not accept his opinion on this.
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    Re: Joe Wilson Hands Obama Big Victory

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Really the President is the person who is pushing Health Care he knw what is in the various Bill so yes he lied when he made the statement that Mr. wilson called him on.
    How can you stand there and try to tell me that President Obama knows every detail of every bill. Wasn't it just a fews weeks ago that the atro-turfers were shouting "read the bill". The FAUX NEWZ talking liars such as Saun Vannity have accuse congress of not reading the bill yet the same talking liars now claim that the President knows evry detail in the various versions of the bills that even congress does not.

    Come on now I was born at night but it was not last night.
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    Re: Joe Wilson Hands Obama Big Victory

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    At this point I do not believe any Obama hater when they claim that the bill(s) in this state do not contain a requirement for proof of eleigibility or not. Even if at this time there was a requirement for proof of eligibility put one in. And if there isn't proof of eligibility that does NOT make President Obama a liar since I and any intelligent American does not believe that he had any intent of making illegals elligible. Therefore withiout that intent a reasonable, intelligent person cannot honestly call him a liar. Of coourse the Obama haters will lie themselves and claim that he lied. It is my beleif based upon the facts and the actions of Obama haters that they are for the most pasrt liars or ignorant of the facts.
    Obama haters as opposed to Obama butt kissers? I love when the uninformed think that using hyperbolic BS is a credible substitute for intelligent debate.

    Here's a little factoid for you Hyper, although you have shown time and again that you are immune to them; illegal aliens currently do have access to healthcare today and the Democrats are reluctant to put any language in these proposals that will limit illegal access because they are pandering to the Hispanic voters and will not do anything that will possibly cost them votes.

    The FACT is that Obama is LYING outright when he makes the FALSE claim that illegal aliens will NOT have access to FREE healthcare under this DEMOCRAT plan to RUIN what is currently the best healthcare system in the world. Democrats have repeatedly defeated efforts by the Republicans to insert language into these bills that will deny care to illegal aliens.

    Now I know that being an Obama butt kisser, many will be immune to the OBVIOUS and the FACTS; but those are the FACTS and all the efforts to deny them doesn't make this Obama butt kissing any more credible.

    Carry on.

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    Re: Joe Wilson Hands Obama Big Victory

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    WAIT ONE NANO SECOND HERE. We are expected to belive the words of a partisan John Boehner !! I do not accept his opinion on this.
    Oh my, this is truly funny. In other words; "Dont bother me with facts; I refuse to believe anyone's partisan opinions except for the hyper partisans that I agree with!"


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    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    Booing a POTUS during the SOTU is not nice and maybe even classless but that is a far cry from what that Obama hater Wilson did and a far cry from the support that the other Obama haters have given to the classless A-HOLE Wilson.
    HorseHockey. The man WAS lying, and his congressional cronies had already voted the "SAVE" provisions out of the bill.
    The "SAVE" provisions were the only legal way to determine if someone was legal before providing them care.

    The man was lying because his cronies has already legislated away the bouncer.

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    Re: Joe Wilson Hands Obama Big Victory

    Maybe you all missed it... I already declared Obama the winner.

    Obama won the debate, because of a republican jerk who couldn't keep his mouth shut, so therefore, government run health care should now be accepted.

    And please, don't anyone even think about actually discussing what the president said, and if it was the truth or not... The facts have no business in this popularity contest.

    Sis boom bah... Obama wins!

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    Re: Joe Wilson Hands Obama Big Victory

    Yep, Joe Wilson lied. Illegals can't get health coverage under this plan, just like Obama said.

    That's why the Democrats ran out and immediately closed the loophole.....

    "We really thought we'd resolved this question of people who are here illegally, but as we reflected on the President's speech last night we wanted to go back and drill down again," said Sen. Kent Conrad (D-ND), according to Time. The incident reportedly has led Finance chairman Max Baucus to insert a provision in his legislation to require participants in the health insurance exchanges to provide proof of citizenship.
    It's a good thing Wilson said something, or Baucus would have completely forgotten to insert the provision requiring proof of citizenship, even though Republicans tried to include it twice.

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    Re: Joe Wilson Hands Obama Big Victory

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Obama haters as opposed to Obama butt kissers? I love when the uninformed think that using hyperbolic BS is a credible substitute for intelligent debate.

    Here's a little factoid for you Hyper, although you have shown time and again that you are immune to them; illegal aliens currently do have access to healthcare today and the Democrats are reluctant to put any language in these proposals that will limit illegal access because they are pandering to the Hispanic voters and will not do anything that will possibly cost them votes.

    The FACT is that Obama is LYING outright when he makes the FALSE claim that illegal aliens will NOT have access to FREE healthcare under this DEMOCRAT plan to RUIN what is currently the best healthcare system in the world. Democrats have repeatedly defeated efforts by the Republicans to insert language into these bills that will deny care to illegal aliens.

    Now I know that being an Obama butt kisser, many will be immune to the OBVIOUS and the FACTS; but those are the FACTS and all the efforts to deny them doesn't make this Obama butt kissing any more credible.

    Carry on.
    My conern with illegals getting heath care is if I have to pay for it. Currently you have to show legal residency in order to get Medicare.

    So you think that accusing others of being averse to facts as you apparently are prone to is debate. So if you think that you work off of facts why don't you but you facts where your mouth is and show us proof that illegals get government health care. Don't tell us about emergency room treatment becasue emergemcy rsponders do not ask for proof of citizency or legal residency when they treating people in need of emergencies.
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    Re: Joe Wilson Hands Obama Big Victory

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwar View Post
    HorseHockey. The man WAS lying, and his congressional cronies had already voted the "SAVE" provisions out of the bill.
    The "SAVE" provisions were the only legal way to determine if someone was legal before providing them care.

    The man was lying because his cronies has already legislated away the bouncer.
    What man was lying, Wilson! We k now Wilson lied and is a jerk so why are you telling us one more time that Wilson is a liar ? Stop the redundancies , please !!
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    Re: Joe Wilson Hands Obama Big Victory

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Oh my, this is truly funny. In other words; "Dont bother me with facts; I refuse to believe anyone's partisan opinions except for the hyper partisans that I agree with!"

    I as anyone has the right not to accept the opinion of any politician. Boener has been prone to saying things that did not pass the teuth test or the smell test so why should I blindly believe him.
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