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    Re: Officials: Discovery of Weapons Cache Suggests Iranian Meddling in Afghan War

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    Exactly. We could have paid for health care with the money we wasted in Iraq for nothing. Big government, big spending, big deficit, big war, big brother policies are bad. Definitively bad, measurably bad. They go to bad places and if we keep on this path of imperialism we're going to lose this Republic fast.
    So, instead of neutralizing an inevitalbe stabilization of an entire region, we should have spent that money on an entitlement program? That don't make a lick-a-sense.
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    Re: Officials: Discovery of Weapons Cache Suggests Iranian Meddling in Afghan War

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    So, instead of neutralizing an inevitalbe stabilization of an entire region, we should have spent that money on an entitlement program? That don't make a lick-a-sense.
    I'm not saying that we should have gone ahead and made healthcare. I'm just saying for what we spent in Iraq we could have built one several times over by now.

    And BTW, Iraq was stable before we went in, we destabilized it.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Officials: Discovery of Weapons Cache Suggests Iranian Meddling in Afghan War

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, instead of neutralizing an inevitalbe stabilization of an entire region, we should have spent that money on an entitlement program? That don't make a lick-a-sense.
    Wait, we neutralized a chance of stabilization in the Middle East? Wow, that was stupid of us.

    I'm guessing you meant to put a "d" and an "e" somewhere in that post. If so, you can't really destabilize something that has barely any stability to begin with.

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    Re: Officials: Discovery of Weapons Cache Suggests Iranian Meddling in Afghan War

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I'm not saying that we should have gone ahead and made healthcare. I'm just saying for what we spent in Iraq we could have built one several times over by now.

    And BTW, Iraq was stable before we went in, we destabilized it.
    Germany was stable before we bombed the crap out of them, too.

    But, that's not what I meant. My point is, Saddam threated to distabilize the entire region, had he been left alone long enough.
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    Re: Officials: Discovery of Weapons Cache Suggests Iranian Meddling in Afghan War

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Germany was stable before we bombed the crap out of them, too.

    But, that's not what I meant. My point is, Saddam threated to distabilize the entire region, had he been left alone long enough.
    The whole region eh? I don't buy it, and if he tried he didn't have what it takes to beat the West's military might. I think these are straws being grasped at after the fact. The fact of the matter is we had no real reason to go into Iraq, but we did. We disposed the government, dropped the country into chaos for how many years now? And have been unable to provide a working, stable government for the area in all that time. Yet more troops, time, and money are necessary because we have to "finish the job" even though the goals are ill defined and there's no real plan to get there.

    Iraq and Nazi Germany are so radically different it is not an appropriate comparison. It's only one made by people who have no other argument to justify their bloodlust.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Officials: Discovery of Weapons Cache Suggests Iranian Meddling in Afghan War

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The whole region eh? I don't buy it, and if he tried he didn't have what it takes to beat the West's military might. I think these are straws being grasped at after the fact. The fact of the matter is we had no real reason to go into Iraq, but we did. We disposed the government, dropped the country into chaos for how many years now? And have been unable to provide a working, stable government for the area in all that time. Yet more troops, time, and money are necessary because we have to "finish the job" even though the goals are ill defined and there's no real plan to get there.

    Iraq and Nazi Germany are so radically different it is not an appropriate comparison. It's only one made by people who have no other argument to justify their bloodlust.
    How many national leaders in the ME have complained about Saddam's removal? Don't bother looking it up, because I'll tell you: none.
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    Re: Officials: Discovery of Weapons Cache Suggests Iranian Meddling in Afghan War

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How many national leaders in the ME have complained about Saddam's removal? Don't bother looking it up, because I'll tell you: none.
    Yeah, cause they're all worried that we'll come **** them up next. They have something much larger to worry about. Saddam...that guy ran his mouth but had nothing to back it up. We do. Of course no one complained. The people most affected are still running around trying not to get killed by terrorists and American forces. The rest are trying their best not to piss us off, some are trying probably preparing for the time when they do catch our eye.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Officials: Discovery of Weapons Cache Suggests Iranian Meddling in Afghan War

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How is war with Iran going to be worse than Iraq?
    They have a bigger military, over twice as many people, and its a nation that is absolutely full of Islamic extremists. Winning the peace there would be impossible.
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    Re: Officials: Discovery of Weapons Cache Suggests Iranian Meddling in Afghan War

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yeah, cause they're all worried that we'll come **** them up next. They have something much larger to worry about. Saddam...that guy ran his mouth but had nothing to back it up. We do. Of course no one complained. The people most affected are still running around trying not to get killed by terrorists and American forces. The rest are trying their best not to piss us off, some are trying probably preparing for the time when they do catch our eye.
    They are? I'm betting that's not entirely accurate.
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    Re: Officials: Discovery of Weapons Cache Suggests Iranian Meddling in Afghan War

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    They have a bigger military, over twice as many people, and its a nation that is absolutely full of Islamic extremists. Winning the peace there would be impossible.
    Iraq had the 4th largest army in the world. We rolled their asses up in 3 weeks.

    The Iranians couldn't whip the Iraqi army, so I'm thinking that their army ain't all that.
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