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    Re: Officials: Discovery of Weapons Cache Suggests Iranian Meddling in Afghan War

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    Because he's a jackass terrorist. What better way to **** with people than with misinformation? Douche bags like to be douche bags.
    Perhaps, but there's still the question of what he has to gain by saying it.



    The whole of Iraq I could have been avoided with proper ambassadors.
    Which would have left Iraq and it's army intact, to be dealt with at a later date, with more casualties.
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    Re: Officials: Discovery of Weapons Cache Suggests Iranian Meddling in Afghan War

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Perhaps, but there's still the question of what he has to gain by saying it.
    Does the school yard bully really gain anything? Not so much, maybe at most some milk money. What they like is ****ing with people, that's what they gain; they get to **** with people. Why would he say it? Cause he's a jackass terrorist who wants to **** with us; he doesn't need anything beyond that. He hates our guts, why would he tell us the truth when he can **** with us a bit more?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Which would have left Iraq and it's army intact, to be dealt with at a later date, with more casualties.
    Why? Why would we even have to deal with them on a later date and why would that imply more casualties than two wars against Iraq put together?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Officials: Discovery of Weapons Cache Suggests Iranian Meddling in Afghan War

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Does the school yard bully really gain anything? Not so much, maybe at most some milk money. What they like is ****ing with people, that's what they gain; they get to **** with people. Why would he say it? Cause he's a jackass terrorist who wants to **** with us; he doesn't need anything beyond that. He hates our guts, why would he tell us the truth when he can **** with us a bit more?
    Being the school yard wimp gains even less. When you promote yourself as non-aggresive it will only encourage people to attack you.



    Why? Why would we even have to deal with them on a later date and why would that imply more casualties than two wars against Iraq put together?

    Why? Because Saddam had intentions of invading his neighbors and it was obviously going to happen, sooner, or later. Had it not been for Desert Storm, Saddam would have gone on unmolested and could have had a real chance of building a nuke. Saddam wasn't anymore interested in diplomacy than the Iranians are.
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    Re: Officials: Discovery of Weapons Cache Suggests Iranian Meddling in Afghan War

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Being the school yard wimp gains even less. When you promote yourself as non-aggresive it will only encourage people to attack you.
    I never said the wimp. But being non-aggressive won't promote attack. If people attack, defend. Just avoid the offensive and getting bogged down in acts of imperialism. That doesn't go well.

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    Why? Because Saddam had intentions of invading his neighbors and it was obviously going to happen, sooner, or later. Had it not been for Desert Storm, Saddam would have gone on unmolested and could have had a real chance of building a nuke. Saddam wasn't anymore interested in diplomacy than the Iranians are.
    No, Saddam could have been controlled. He liked being dictator, much more than being overthrown by American forces and hanged. Iraq I could have been avoided, Saddam could have been prevented from marching into Kuwait through proper ambassador choices. We didn't have that, the ambassador to Iraq at the time was a major fundraiser for Bush I. Kuwait was side drilling into Iraq, Saddam asked the ambassador if the US would have a problem if he did something about it. Now the chick didn't have experience as ambassador, probably didn't really know the extent to which Saddam would go. Told him we wouldn't have an opinion on the matter. Saddam invaded, we're like "oh ****!". The whole of it could have been avoided with intelligent choices, without going to war.

    So why, why is it that we would have to deal with Saddam at some later time and why would it cost more casualties that two offenses put together?

    Also, we're not 100% sure Iran is shipping the arms, so maybe we should at least confirm that one before we repeat our WMD mess.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Officials: Discovery of Weapons Cache Suggests Iranian Meddling in Afghan War

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I never said the wimp. But being non-aggressive won't promote attack. If people attack, defend. Just avoid the offensive and getting bogged down in acts of imperialism. That doesn't go well.
    We tried that prior to WW2 and didn't have a very happy ending for a half million Americans.



    No, Saddam could have been controlled. He liked being dictator, much more than being overthrown by American forces and hanged. Iraq I could have been avoided, Saddam could have been prevented from marching into Kuwait through proper ambassador choices. We didn't have that, the ambassador to Iraq at the time was a major fundraiser for Bush I. Kuwait was side drilling into Iraq, Saddam asked the ambassador if the US would have a problem if he did something about it. Now the chick didn't have experience as ambassador, probably didn't really know the extent to which Saddam would go. Told him we wouldn't have an opinion on the matter. Saddam invaded, we're like "oh ****!". The whole of it could have been avoided with intelligent choices, without going to war.
    Coddling the bad guys isn't the answer. History has proven that.

    So why, why is it that we would have to deal with Saddam at some later time and why would it cost more casualties that two offenses put together?
    he would have left the reservation sooner, or later and when he did, he could have possibly had better weaponry and more of it. Perhaps a nuke. That's why we need to go ahead and zap Iran. It'll happen one and the long we wait, the worse it will be. Just think if we had attacked Germany in 1939 when the Brits got went to war with Germany. We could have ended the war in a couple of years and saved untold millions of lives.

    [/quote]Also, we're not 100% sure Iran is shipping the arms, so maybe we should at least confirm that one before we repeat our WMD mess.[/QUOTE]


    So, all those Iranian from the intelligence ministry we captured in Iraq were on vacation? Sippin' some suds and getting a tan?
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    Re: Officials: Discovery of Weapons Cache Suggests Iranian Meddling in Afghan War

    So let me get this straight. We can't afford health care reform because price tags put it at nearly 1 trillion dollars over 10 years. Well, if that is the case then I would agree with that.

    The deficit is out of control and we have to get spending under control or we will find ourselves having to drastically increase taxes in the future or face defaulting on our debts. Yes, that is something to definitely be concerned about.

    Yet, we can afford another war? A war that would make the war in Iraq look like a cake walk? A war that would ultimately cost trillions more, and lead to huge spikes in the cost of oil (200 a barrel or more practically over night). We can afford paying 7 or 8 dollars a gallon for gas because of supply disruptions? Our soldiers and their families that we have already asked so much of can handle yet another war?

    Some of yall are just out of your flipping minds.
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    Re: Officials: Discovery of Weapons Cache Suggests Iranian Meddling in Afghan War

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Officials: Discovery of Weapons Cache Suggests Iranian Meddling in Afghan War - International News | News of the World | Middle East News | Europe News - FOXNews.com

    The discovery of a weapons cache in western Afghanistan has raised concerns that Iran is interfering in the war-torn country, much like it did in Iraq, by supplying weapons used to attack and kill U.S. and coalition troops, U.S. officials tell FOX News.

    Afghan and NATO forces uncovered the weapons cache on Aug. 29 in Herat. It included a small number of Iranian-made "explosively formed penetrators," hyper-powerful roadside bombs similar to the weapons used to kill U.S. forces in Iraq, a senior U.S. Defense Official told FOX News.

    Also seized during the raid were 107 Iranian-made BM-1 rockets and dozens of blocks of Iranian C4 plastic explosives.

    This is a very large problem that needs to be dealt with once and for all. The US and Mr. Obama need to send a very loud message to that idiot in Terhan first the State dept. needs to tell the UN that the Illegal Leader of Iran will not be issued a Visa second we need to start stopping all Iran flagged ships.
    This Article forgets a VERY important point:

    Iran, before we got into a **** fight with them, was HELPING us fight Al Queda in Afghanistan. You see, we share something in common with Iran, and that is that Al Queda hates us both. Some would say equally. And we all know the Talaban's opinion about Al Queda (aka, a positive one). I really doubt that Iran would be helping the Talaban, even if it is to strike at Americans. I bet these weapons are either left-overs from when Iran was helping us, or they were smuggled into Afghanistan without the Iranian Government's knowledge.

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    Re: Officials: Discovery of Weapons Cache Suggests Iranian Meddling in Afghan War

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We tried that prior to WW2 and didn't have a very happy ending for a half million Americans.
    A massive world war compared to undeclared acts of imperialism is apples and watermelon.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Coddling the bad guys isn't the answer. History has proven that.
    But we did....we saved Kuwait; the initial aggressor.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    he would have left the reservation sooner, or later and when he did, he could have possibly had better weaponry and more of it. Perhaps a nuke. That's why we need to go ahead and zap Iran. It'll happen one and the long we wait, the worse it will be. Just think if we had attacked Germany in 1939 when the Brits got went to war with Germany. We could have ended the war in a couple of years and saved untold millions of lives.
    This is all supposition. I don't base decisions which lead to massive death of other humans on the basis of supposition. Just because you believe this was how it would go doesn't make it so. We could have avoided the first Iraq war all together, prevented an invasion of another country from the start with proper diplomacy and intellect. That's true, that's part of history. This whole Saddam and WMD things are as made up as unicorns.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, all those Iranian from the intelligence ministry we captured in Iraq were on vacation? Sippin' some suds and getting a tan?
    Did Saddam have WMD's? I mean, everyone said he did...right? What's that? We got that wrong? And someone posted a link already which stated that we weren't sure if Iran was shipping the arms. So what do you want. We have reports it's not definitive yet and you're calling for invasion. Have we really not learned our lesson yet? I don't know how much more American life you want to throw at this problem and how many humans you're willing to go through over there; but at some point it has to be enough, we have to be done. We can't go on with forever war. We will destroy only ourselves, this Republic by doing so.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Officials: Discovery of Weapons Cache Suggests Iranian Meddling in Afghan War

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    So let me get this straight. We can't afford health care reform because price tags put it at nearly 1 trillion dollars over 10 years. Well, if that is the case then I would agree with that.

    The deficit is out of control and we have to get spending under control or we will find ourselves having to drastically increase taxes in the future or face defaulting on our debts. Yes, that is something to definitely be concerned about.

    Yet, we can afford another war? A war that would make the war in Iraq look like a cake walk? A war that would ultimately cost trillions more, and lead to huge spikes in the cost of oil (200 a barrel or more practically over night). We can afford paying 7 or 8 dollars a gallon for gas because of supply disruptions? Our soldiers and their families that we have already asked so much of can handle yet another war?

    Some of yall are just out of your flipping minds.
    Exactly. We could have paid for health care with the money we wasted in Iraq for nothing. Big government, big spending, big deficit, big war, big brother policies are bad. Definitively bad, measurably bad. They go to bad places and if we keep on this path of imperialism we're going to lose this Republic fast.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
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    Re: Officials: Discovery of Weapons Cache Suggests Iranian Meddling in Afghan War

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    So let me get this straight. We can't afford health care reform because price tags put it at nearly 1 trillion dollars over 10 years. Well, if that is the case then I would agree with that.

    The deficit is out of control and we have to get spending under control or we will find ourselves having to drastically increase taxes in the future or face defaulting on our debts. Yes, that is something to definitely be concerned about.

    Yet, we can afford another war? A war that would make the war in Iraq look like a cake walk? A war that would ultimately cost trillions more, and lead to huge spikes in the cost of oil (200 a barrel or more practically over night). We can afford paying 7 or 8 dollars a gallon for gas because of supply disruptions? Our soldiers and their families that we have already asked so much of can handle yet another war?

    Some of yall are just out of your flipping minds.
    How is war with Iran going to be worse than Iraq?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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