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    Re: Officials: Discovery of Weapons Cache Suggests Iranian Meddling in Afghan War

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I think it's obvious that diplomacy isn't going to work with Iran's leadership.
    I don't think it will either, but I think we have to make the attempt. Every so often, surprising things do happen.

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    Re: Officials: Discovery of Weapons Cache Suggests Iranian Meddling in Afghan War

    Honestly, f*** that s***. They don't obey the rules of war, using phosphorus on our troops, we shouldn't have to follow the rules upon the people giving them the phosphorous
    Exactly what you are talking about? We use phosphorous all the time, its not a war crime.

    I don't see a good solution to problem. As much as it might make you feel better, attacking Iran isn't going to stop the weapon flow. The likely response would actually be to increase the number of weapons shipped. Diplomacy is unlikely to succeed, but its costs nothing to try, so it is worth the attempt.
    The best option would be to blockade the border with soldiers, but we don't have the manpower with soldiers tied up in Iraq. Using the CIA to straw purchase the weapons might work, but I doubt we have assets capable of pulling it off. For the time being, it looks like we are just going to have to handle the deadlier weapons.

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    Re: Officials: Discovery of Weapons Cache Suggests Iranian Meddling in Afghan War

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I don't think bombing is the answer at this time. I think we need to try diplomacy, and then when it fails(it probably will), do targeted bombings.
    Diplomacy doesn't work with terrorists. Therefore, diplomacy with Iran is doomed to fail.


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    Re: Officials: Discovery of Weapons Cache Suggests Iranian Meddling in Afghan War

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    Officials: Discovery of Weapons Cache Suggests Iranian Meddling in Afghan War - International News | News of the World | Middle East News | Europe News - FOXNews.com

    The discovery of a weapons cache in western Afghanistan has raised concerns that Iran is interfering in the war-torn country, much like it did in Iraq, by supplying weapons used to attack and kill U.S. and coalition troops, U.S. officials tell FOX News.

    Afghan and NATO forces uncovered the weapons cache on Aug. 29 in Herat. It included a small number of Iranian-made "explosively formed penetrators," hyper-powerful roadside bombs similar to the weapons used to kill U.S. forces in Iraq, a senior U.S. Defense Official told FOX News.

    Also seized during the raid were 107 Iranian-made BM-1 rockets and dozens of blocks of Iranian C4 plastic explosives.

    This is a very large problem that needs to be dealt with once and for all. The US and Mr. Obama need to send a very loud message to that idiot in Terhan first the State dept. needs to tell the UN that the Illegal Leader of Iran will not be issued a Visa second we need to start stopping all Iran flagged ships.
    The most amazing thing about this news is how LITTLE play it is getting. Why do you think that is?

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    Re: Officials: Discovery of Weapons Cache Suggests Iranian Meddling in Afghan War

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I don't think it will either, but I think we have to make the attempt. Every so often, surprising things do happen.
    We've already made the attempt. American soldiers are dieing, now. The time for talk is over.
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    Re: Officials: Discovery of Weapons Cache Suggests Iranian Meddling in Afghan War

    Wait, I thought the Iranians weren't looking for trouble and that the War on Terrorism is over.
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    Re: Officials: Discovery of Weapons Cache Suggests Iranian Meddling in Afghan War

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I couldn't agree more, however targetting national leaders is illegal. Therefore, we must target the citizenry and hope Ahamdenijad gets caught up in the mix.
    Didn't really stop us in Iraq.

    And for the love of Christ here, how many more undeclared, occupational wars do you want to get us into? Of course Iran is doing ****, we're ****ing around in their backyard. If say communist Russia was waring in Mexico or Canada, you think we wouldn't do anything? Iran's probably scarred that they're on the list of what to take out next, not without cause either. Why would anyone be surprised that they are aiding our enemies when they view us as the enemy?
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    Re: Officials: Discovery of Weapons Cache Suggests Iranian Meddling in Afghan War

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Didn't really stop us in Iraq.

    And for the love of Christ here, how many more undeclared, occupational wars do you want to get us into? Of course Iran is doing ****, we're ****ing around in their backyard. If say communist Russia was waring in Mexico or Canada, you think we wouldn't do anything? Iran's probably scarred that they're on the list of what to take out next, not without cause either. Why would anyone be surprised that they are aiding our enemies when they view us as the enemy?
    And if we did something when Russia was waring in Mexico, we could expect a response from Russia in retaliation. Just ike Iran should be prepared fo our response for killing American soldiers.
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    Re: Officials: Discovery of Weapons Cache Suggests Iranian Meddling in Afghan War

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Didn't really stop us in Iraq.

    And for the love of Christ here, how many more undeclared, occupational wars do you want to get us into? Of course Iran is doing ****, we're ****ing around in their backyard. If say communist Russia was waring in Mexico or Canada, you think we wouldn't do anything? Iran's probably scarred that they're on the list of what to take out next, not without cause either. Why would anyone be surprised that they are aiding our enemies when they view us as the enemy?
    What I find fascinating about this rationalizing about a despotic nation that has a history of violating even the most basic diplomatic practice, taking over an embassy, is that it ignores facts:

    (1) The USA does not have a history of invading nations that have not violated another nation’s sovereignty nor does it have a history of occupying nations in an effort to expand an imperialist agenda regardless of the emotional hysterics of those who claim we do.

    (2) Iran is rightfully concerned as it is a rogue nation that it is in defiance of its own agreements and is under sanctions for those violations.

    (3) Iran is rightfully concerned because it is illegally arming terrorists to blow up UN peace keepers attempting to restore order in Iraq and Afghanistan which is in direct violation of legitimacy for any nation.

    The ONLY reason for Iran to act in this way is that it is indeed a ROGUE nation that promotes TERRORISM. If Iran abided by international standards and rescinded its efforts to produce enriched uranium, which has only ONE purpose, it would have ZERO to fear from ANYONE.

    But alas, people like you prefer the absurd rationale that it is OUR actions in Iraq and Afghanistan that “provokes” such irrational paranoid behavior instead of the rogue actions of that nation.

    It is as asinine as suggesting that the reason our troops are dying is because Bush sent them there instead of the efforts of the thugs, despots and terrorists who are doing the killing and who offer NOTHING to those they murder other than more of the same while we are fighting for their freedom to elect their own representative governments.


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    Re: Officials: Discovery of Weapons Cache Suggests Iranian Meddling in Afghan War

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    (1) The USA does not have a history of invading nations that have not violated another nation’s sovereignty nor does it have a history of occupying nations in an effort to expand an imperialist agenda regardless of the emotional hysterics of those who claim we do.
    Well there is the second Iraq war. And of course, all the death squad/black ops sort of thing we did back in the day, particularly the 60's-80's. And of course, we are currently occupying Iraq. But yeah...besides a few decades of our most recent behavior...we're good one that point.

    Also...the first Iraq war, Iraq attacked Kuwait because they were side drilling into Iraqi territory. Of course, that does not justify invasion; but it's not like Saddam woke up one day and was like, "You know...today is a good day to invade Kuwait!".

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    (2) Iran is rightfully concerned as it is a rogue nation that it is in defiance of its own agreements and is under sanctions for those violations.
    They are rightfully concerned because they saw us just **** up two countries, and one for no good legitimate reason. They've never been terribly friendly with us, they know we're kinda looking for reasons. They want us out of the region and out of their hair. Understandable I say. I wouldn't want other people over here ****ing with my **** and trying to use military force to make me obey their will.

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    (3) Iran is rightfully concerned because it is illegally arming terrorists to blow up UN peace keepers attempting to restore order in Iraq and Afghanistan which is in direct violation of legitimacy for any nation.
    Of course they're arming the terrorists. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. And we did it too, Iran Contra mean anything to you? ****, we trained those terrorists in the ME to fight the terrorists the Russians were training. The whole of that area is messed up due to the Western intervention for decades upon decades. They don't hate us for our freedom or any other bull**** like that. The region hates the west because we've ****ed with them for so long.

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    The ONLY reason for Iran to act in this way is that it is indeed a ROGUE nation that promotes TERRORISM. If Iran abided by international standards and rescinded its efforts to produce enriched uranium, which has only ONE purpose, it would have ZERO to fear from ANYONE.
    No, we took that one away with Iraq II. People best fear us, we can and will eliminate countries and governments if we don't like. That's the lesson to the governments in that area from Iraq II.

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    But alas, people like you prefer the absurd rationale that it is OUR actions in Iraq and Afghanistan that “provokes” such irrational paranoid behavior instead of the rogue actions of that nation.

    It is as asinine as suggesting that the reason our troops are dying is because Bush sent them there instead of the efforts of the thugs, despots and terrorists who are doing the killing and who offer NOTHING to those they murder other than more of the same while we are fighting for their freedom to elect their own representative governments.

    But alas, people like you prefer to ignore history and consequence and use abusrd rationale that they hate us for our freedom or other crap. Pretending instead that the US has had a stellar history full of doing nothing wrong and that our interventionist policies cannot possibly have consequence or blowback.

    It is as asinine as suggesting that the reason our troops are dying is because we are fighting for the democracy of another country instead of there for personal reasons and trying to establish a foothold in an area where we don't belong.
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