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Germany has illegal immigrants right now. They, like most of Europe, are grappling with their own issues and how to deal with illegals from Africa. They, like us, seem torn between discussions on amnesty vs. cracking down.

Illegal Immigrants in Berlin, Germany may receive Health Care with Anonymous Insurance Card | erblawg

It's hardly a uniquely American problem. Ambitious folks simply won't remain in down trodden countries that offer zero opportunities. They will leave. It's human nature. Borders are lines drawn on a map.

You are correct. They have their own issues.

They, too, are being much weaker in handling the problem than they should be. It seems I was correct: no one has the stomach for efficiency these days. It's a sad day when Germany can't even handle an infestation problem without going soft about it.
 
meh, we're marching towards a global world with a global governing body anyway at which point it'll become a moot issue. :mrgreen:
 
meh, we're marching towards a global world with a global governing body anyway at which point it'll become a moot issue. :mrgreen:

The day the capital of the world moves to New Babylon and Barrack Obama rides a pig into the rebuilt Temple of Jerusalem, I am going to just take my vows as a monk and hope for the best.


(only apocalypse fiction nerds will even begin to comprehend that)
 
to him what posted this PolitiFact article saying Obama only lied once

I would point out that by this tally he had 2 falses, 1 full flop, and 3 "mostly trues."
 
Affordability credits mean federal money to purchase insurance. The bill specifically excludes any federal money for assistance purchasing insurance.
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Spock says: "Illogical!"

The bill excludes affordability credits. You can't generalize that to "any federal money."
 
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Spock says: "Illogical!"

The bill excludes affordability credits. You can't generalize that to "any federal money."

Yes, you can. The bill specifically excludes any federal money for undocumented aliens.

When the 'other side' keeps peddling lies, it gets hard to take other concerns seriously. Boy Who Cried Wolf, and all ....
 
Show us where.

I never understood the concern about paying the HC of illegal aliens anyway.
We all already do pay for them (though higher insurance premiums) & there is no way that is ever going to end.
I'm not crazy about the law of Gravity or some of Newton's Laws of Motion either. (makes me to heavy & slows me down) ........but we have as much chance of avoiding gravitational pull as we do of avoiding paying for the health care of illegals.

Sounds good on paper (which is why it is there) but is impossible to achieve, in real life. (kinda like staying in only the chlorinated part of the swimming pool)

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This topic could easily turn into an immigration law topic but that's a whole other discussion for another thread. Suffice it to say that there will be illegal aliens in this country for the foreseeable future & pretending we can make them disappear is a fairy tale.
 
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Then you should have no problem dredging up a quote.

No, I imagine I wouldn't.

But do I feel like scrolling through multiple pages to repost not only quotes but articles and original sources to the very same poster? Not a chance.
 
But you've yet to show where in the bill proof of citizenship is required.
No need for that, we're one big happy country aren't we? :lol:
 
But you've yet to show where in the bill proof of citizenship is required.

& what do you do with someone who can't produce proof of citizenship? Let them die?....How about children?
(unless you just let them die, someone will be paying for their care, right?

Regardless of what right wingers try to BS us with, not everything has a simple answer.
 
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& what do you do with someone who can't produce proof of citizenship? Let them die?....How about children?
(unless you just let them die, someone will be paying for their care, right?

Regardless of what right wingers try to BS us with, not everything has a simple answer.
So you agree that BO was lying about illegals not being covered under BOCare? Glad to see you at least admit that. ;)

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So you agree that BO was lying about illegals not being covered under BOCare? Glad to see you at least admit that. ;)

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Sometimes a President must say things for political reasons that "stretch" the truth a bit.:lol:

For example, here are a few more "lies" Obama uttered:
When Obama said that insurance company execs were not bad people.....He was lying.

When Obama said that Republicans also want better health care in this country...he was lying.

When Obama said that Republicans care about this country...he was lying.



Not all lies are born equal!:lol:

(is there an intelligent husband in the country who would not lie (if necessary) when his wife asks..."Does this dress make me look fat?")
 
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& what do you do with someone who can't produce proof of citizenship? Let them die?....How about children?
(unless you just let them die, someone will be paying for their care, right?

Regardless of what right wingers try to BS us with, not everything has a simple answer.
Why are children more important than anyone else? For those who support abortion, I'd like to know.

Has anyone ever said that the legitimate use of ERs is a bad thing?
 
& what do you do with someone who can't produce proof of citizenship? Let them die?....How about children?
(unless you just let them die, someone will be paying for their care, right?

Regardless of what right wingers try to BS us with, not everything has a simple answer.




I would be for emergency care, followed by immediate deportation.
 
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