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Yes, they are obviously lacking in any form of insight.
OK...So you agree that my above points are obvious. Explain then how the tremendous additional cost of paying for this incarceration is beneficial to us taxpayers &...I thought the main argument here was in trying to AVOID paying the HC costs of illegal aliens. Your plan ENSURES we pay it all & prevents them for earning anything to help defray their burden on our economy.
 
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OK...So you agree that my above points are obvious. Explain then how the tremendous additional cost of paying for this incarceration is beneficial to us taxpayers.

I already did this. But you chose to mindlessly drone on and on about illegals in jail getting to live with their families. Which is a blatant falsehood but whatever.
 
I already did this. But you chose to mindlessly drone on and on about illegals in jail getting to live with their families. Which is a blatant falsehood but whatever.

OK...Let's take illegal aliens HC costs in particular:

The reality is that we already pay for illegal aliens HC costs through our additional HC insurance premiums, which I have seen figures at about an additional $1,000.00 for every taxpayer in this nation.
If your prison plan was really implimented, we would still have the above insurance burden PLUS the additional tax burden of fully paying for thousands more illegal aliens that we would be required to feed, house & PAY FOR THEIR HC while they are in U.S. prisons, ....Right??!

As long as the standard of living in Mexico is lousy (in other words forever) & Mexicans can better their lives by easily getting jobs here, human nature tells us that they will continue to take the chance of coming here illegally. The OBVIOUS answer is not more imprisoning but preventing them (illegals) from getting the jobs that attract them here. (I realize that this concept is to deep for a short, catchy "Drill Baby Drill" Fox News/GOP soundbites....but reality is complicated, only ignorance is simple.
(that last sentence is aimed at Fox News & the GOP...Not at any forum members here)
 
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OK...Let's take illegal aliens HC costs in particular:

The reality is that we already pay for illegal aliens HC costs through our additional HC insurance premiums, which I have seen figures at about an additional $1,000.00 for every taxpayer in this nation.

Link? Or these figures don't exist.

If your prison plan was really implimented, we would still have the above insurance burden PLUS the additional tax burden of fully paying for thousands more illegal aliens that we would be required to feed, house & PAY FOR THEIR HC while they are in U.S. prisons, ....Right??!

Which could easily be offset by putting them to work on public works projects and the future deterrence of other illegals coming here due to the risk of winding up in one of our work prisons.

As long as the standard of living in Mexico is lousy & Mexicans can better their lives by easily getting jobs here, human nature tells us that they will continue to take the chance of coming here illegally.

Which is why I stated that there should be plans implemented to remove the lure by laying harsh penalties on those who hire illegals as well.

The OBVIOUS answer is not more imprisoning but preventing them (illegals) from getting the jobs that attract them here. (I realize that this concept is to deep for a short, catchy "Drill Baby Drill" Fox News/GOP soundbites....but reality is complicated, only ignorance is simple.

You know what? **** this conversation because despite your attempt to deflect from the insults you fling, you still fling them. And that's in addition to completely ignoring what has been stated so that you can feel justified in flinging your little insults.

This conversation, as well as any future conversation with you, is done. I have no intention of being mindlessly insulted by someone too daft to even read and comprehend or acknowledge that I stated the exact same thing not even three posts ago.

Good day.

(that last sentence is aimed at Fox News & the GOP...Not at any forum members here)

Yeah, right.
 
You know what? **** this conversation because despite your attempt to deflect from the insults you fling, you still fling them. And that's in addition to completely ignoring what has been stated so that you can feel justified in flinging your little insults.

This conversation, as well as any future conversation with you, is done. I have no intention of being mindlessly insulted by someone too daft to even read and comprehend or acknowledge that I stated the exact same thing not even three posts ago.

Good day.



Yeah, right.


If anyone is throwing insults it is you & if anyone should be upset about them it is me.


Here are just a few of your insults from just the last few pages of THIS thread:

I. But you chose to mindlessly drone on and on

Well how about before we start indulging your Godwin's slope fantasy,

and show us just how low you can really sink?

Hyperbole. You're doing it right!

Godwin's Law. You're doing it right!!!

I have no intention of being mindlessly insulted by someone too daft to even read and comprehend







Just a friendly suggestion:
If one is prone to throwing insults & "digs" at others, it is poor form to then cry about having the favor returned.
 
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I have no intention of being mindlessly insulted by someone too daft to even read and comprehend or acknowledge that I stated the exact same thing not even three posts ago.

Good day.


To daft, eh?

Who was it that posted this..... calling for prison camps along the border?

jail time and immediate deportation for repeat offending border hoppers, and possible labor camps along the border doing something productive with them like building immigrations stations along with a wall.

I mean, if they're coming here to work...put them to work.


Sounds to me like you were advocating the very mistake I was talking about.....but then again I guess I'm just to "Daft" to understand you.;)
 
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Make illegal immigration a capital offense. God knows it would please enough people for the votes, and that would be an act of deterrence as well.

I am surprised that you would propose such an action!
 
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I am surprised that you would propose such an action!

I live in California, and I went to school with countless Mexicans who hated the country, and helped it in no way. To say the least, I dislike Mexicans who come over, and allow their kids to become wannabe gangster's.
 
Man, I can't believe you could even dig up that almost two year old report. Is that the last periodical you've read?

If some people can complain about Obama's elementary school over 40 years ago, or Justice Sonya Sotomayors speeches of 20 years ago..........2 years is like Yesterday...Right?;)
 
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If some people can complain about Obama's elementary school over 40 years ago, or Justice Sonya Sotomayors speeches of 20 years ago..........2 years is like Yesterday...Right?;)

Obama and Sotomayer are currently IN OFFICE. Their identities are pertinent to what is going on NOW.

People who break laws should be punished. People who break laws that cause great harm should be punished severely. People who create organizations to pepetuate illegal activity should have all their assets confiscated. Enforce the law!

These business owners should be at least fined based on the benefit they received by intentionally not hiring legal american citizens or those with a valid work visa. If they are unable to pay the fine their business licenses should be revoked and their owners should be prevented from going into business for a period of time. Problem is there is so much corruption that the local politicians are not enforcing the laws.
 
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