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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    There is where the health care reform needs to start. perhaps, if we weren't spending millions of dollars every year on free health care for illegal aliens, health care costs would go down, thereby lowering insurance costs.
    Again, illegal aliens are a law enforcement issue, not a health care issue. There are appropriate places to protect against illegal aliens, but a health care bill is not one of those places.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Um...actually, yeah you did. You may want to read back a bit.
    No sir, I didn't.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Again, illegal aliens are a law enforcement issue, not a health care issue. There are appropriate places to protect against illegal aliens, but a health care bill is not one of those places.
    I believe that illegals are an issue for both. When the chief argument for a bill of this kind, is having too many uninsured people causes high health care costs, then the first step should be to severely curb free health care given to illegal aliens.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Again, illegal aliens are a law enforcement issue, not a health care issue. There are appropriate places to protect against illegal aliens, but a health care bill is not one of those places.
    I disagree. Illegals are not only a law enforcement issue, but they are a health issue, a financial issue, a national security issue, a public services issue, etc.

    Of course, we could remedy that if we just made them a military issue and be done with it. But no one seems to have the stomach for efficiency these days...

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Seal the border, as much as possible.
    Impossible pipe dream.

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    seek out, arrest and deport illegal aliens.
    Impossible pipe dream.

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    Make sanctuary cities illegal and enforce that law.
    Impossible pipe dream.

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    Require patients to provide proof of citizenship.
    Suppose they can't/don't let them die? (what if they are unconscious in a car wreck?....Search through their pockets?)

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Seal the border, as much as possible.

    seek out, arrest and deport illegal aliens.

    Make sanctuary cities illegal and enforce that law.

    Require patients to provide proof of citizenship.

    Just for starters.

    Doing nothing isn't going to accomplish too much.
    These are all reasonable things to be up for debate.. in an immigration reform bill.

    However this is outside of the scope of a health care reform bill.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No sir, I didn't.
    You may wish to keep this going, but I don't. There are far more interesting issues to discuss than your avoidance of the topic and personal attacks. Have fun with yourself.

    Let me know when you are ready to discuss the topic at hand.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Impossible pipe dream.


    Impossible pipe dream.


    Impossible pipe dream.


    Suppose they can't/don't let them die? (what if they are unconscious in a car wreck?....Search through their pockets?)
    Very helpful, it just proves you're a naysayer.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
    "Fly-over" country voted, and The Donald is now POTUS.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Very helpful, it just proves you're a naysayer.
    I did not know he was a republican...

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Impossible pipe dream.


    Impossible pipe dream.


    Impossible pipe dream.


    Suppose they can't/don't let them die? (what if they are unconscious in a car wreck?....Search through their pockets?)
    So, your answer is to do nothing? Sorry, but I just can't buy into that strategy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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