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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    We are all paying for HC of illegals every day in the ER of all hospitals. It will always be impossible to weed them out of HC entirely unless we authorize hospitals to let people die if they don't have proper paperwork.
    Are we willing to do that?

    Let's be grown-ups & face a few facts:
    1. Sealing our borders will never be possible
    2. We consider ourselves moral human beings

    Therefore:
    Unless we are willing to allow thousands of innocent children to starve/die we are stuck with providing HC, just like we already do every day.
    There is where the health care reform needs to start. perhaps, if we weren't spending millions of dollars every year on free health care for illegal aliens, health care costs would go down, thereby lowering insurance costs.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Once again treading off topic. I'll repeat myself just in case you didn't comprehend it last time. If you don't like my views, ignore them. If you are going to reply, please stay on topic rather than resorting to personal attacks. It makes your debate style look weak that you have to resort to such tactics when you've run out of legitimate things to say.

    The same goes for you, sir.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    There is where the health care reform needs to start. perhaps, if we weren't spending millions of dollars every year on free health care for illegal aliens, health care costs would go down, thereby lowering insurance costs.
    How do you propose we do it?...Be specific please.

    (How about if we just make Cancer & Heart disease illegal???)
    Last edited by Devil505; 09-10-09 at 05:12 PM.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The same goes for you, sir.
    I'm not resorting to personal attacks, sir. Nice try, though.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    It's not only that it's free, but vastly inefficient. Emergency rooms are expensive, opening a surgical pack to get one scalpel out is $500. Imagine the cost of other services in the ER that are vastly more expensive than a doctors office. Plus they clog up ER with bull**** medical problems when real emergencies could be serviced.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
    "Fly-over" country voted, and The Donald is now POTUS.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    How do you propose we do it?...Be specific please.
    Seal the border, as much as possible.

    seek out, arrest and deport illegal aliens.

    Make sanctuary cities illegal and enforce that law.

    Require patients to provide proof of citizenship.

    Just for starters.

    Doing nothing isn't going to accomplish too much.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    I'm not resorting to personal attacks, sir. Nice try, though.
    Nor did, I sir.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Nor did, I sir.
    Um...actually, yeah you did. You may want to read back a bit.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    There is where the health care reform needs to start. perhaps, if we weren't spending millions of dollars every year on free health care for illegal aliens, health care costs would go down, thereby lowering insurance costs.
    Which is why requiring them to have it, and making them pay for it themselves is part of the proposed legislation.

    If anything it keeps more of their dollars here in the U.S. economy, as opposed to fueling the Mexican economy.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Um...actually, yeah you did. You may want to read back a bit.
    Could you two please take this to PM?
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
    "Fly-over" country voted, and The Donald is now POTUS.

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