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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Limt View Post
    Huh?

    If the facts of the case point to blatant malpractice, and your child ends up braindead, or worse, you're damn right there should be hell to pay.

    Of course a jury is going to be emotional, who the hell wouldn't be in the case of severe medical malpractice?

    I suspect most Americans will never support a bill that leaves the average citizen at a disadvantage by telling them that "you can only sue for this much" against an HMO, doctor, or hospital.

    Do you think an HMO, hospital, or doctor would ever allow a bill where they can only sue the government or another party for a limited amount?

    Do you really honestly believe they would stand for that? But you want to limit the average person?

    Limiting the amount of money an average American can sue for, is about as restrictive and unfair as it gets.

    I hope to God, you're not serious about your views.
    In blatant cases of malpractice, yeah. But, there are millions paid out every year on frivolous malpractice suits.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Limt View Post
    Huh?

    If the facts of the case point to blatant malpractice, and your child ends up braindead, or worse, you're damn right there should be hell to pay.
    This illustrates one of the major fallacies of the practice of medicine and why the current industry spends so much money trying to avoid frivolous lawsuits and the high costs associated with them; the notion that medicine is some perfect science and should always have a positive outcome.

    What this attitude suggests is that if someone requires a critical operation, one would be best off doing NOTHING; but alas, that will end up in a lawsuit as well. Because doctors are not given the option of doing nothing and required to perform miracles and while performing delicate operations supposed to be perfect.

    The United States, as far as I can tell, is the ONLY nation which has such a litigious society. No other nation has had to deal with this issue and has seen the level of abuse of litigation like this nation. I guess it comes from this growing national attitude that we all should get something for nothing.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, I'm not taking an interest in stand up comedy. Just telling the truth.

    When are you going to stop paying homage to the messiah and criticize his policies that are obviously worth criticism?
    You have never been interested in honesty apdst.

    I'm paying homage to jesus? Where have I been paying homage to jesus on this site? I never had a problem with Jesus feeding the poor, performing miracles turning water into wine, healing the blind, raising lazarus from the dead. What do you have against Jesus' policies?

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    Re: Presidential Address

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    You both got me!!

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    The floor is yours. You have my undivided attention and complete freedom to make your point in full. If he delivered the speech well, it means . . . ?
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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by LowRevs View Post
    Nothing but new lies and new threats and no changes to HR3200. He starts by calling all opposition liars and then gets upset when he's called a liar. He says he's open to any ideas anyone has. Did you see the Republicans holding up bills Pelosi refuses to allow on the floor. He says one thing and she does another and apparently they are the only ones confused.

    I don't recall another president threatening that the American people will be "called out" for exercising their freedom of speech if they don't agree with all elements of his plan. He stated that the opposition should tone done the rhetoric. Did he directly address the people of this country being called thugs, mobs, insane, nazi, brownshirts, senile, astroturf by the democrats. It's the democrats that need to become civil and stop the personal attacks.

    The most despicable moment was in bringing Kennedy into the speech in such a prominent manner to try to guilt everyone into passing government run healthcare.

    This bill needs to to totally thrown out. It was crafted to either instill government run one payer health care or to instill a system that causes it to occur. Obama's has stated this in interview.
    The above is simply a perfect analogy of what is ocurring and the contents of last nights speech; BRAVO!

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    In blatant cases of malpractice, yeah. But, there are millions paid out every year on frivolous malpractice suits.
    Were not talking about frivolous lawsuits, which i agree have to be reigned in.

    Restrict the amount of money an American can sue for in cases of criminal or severe malpractice is wrong, unfair, and is a non-starter.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    You have never been interested in honesty apdst.

    I'm paying homage to jesus? Where have I been paying homage to jesus on this site? I never had a problem with Jesus feeding the poor, performing miracles turning water into wine, healing the blind, raising lazarus from the dead. What do you have against Jesus' policies?
    You're going to start calling PBO Jesus, now? That's just nutty.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You're going to start calling PBO Jesus, now? That's just nutty.
    Oh i thought you were talking about Jesus when you said Messiah I only know of one messiah maybe you know otherwise?

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Limt View Post
    Were not talking about frivolous lawsuits, which i agree have to be reigned in.
    That's what TORT reform would do. However, the lawyers in COngress aren't going to le anyone mess with their money pot.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Oh i thought you were talking about Jesus when you said Messiah I only know of one messiah maybe you know otherwise?
    I meant your Dear Leader.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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