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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    Au contraire, my friend, he is going to bat for the middle class. And I'm glad he's going to call out the lies.
    Going to bat for the middle class? How so?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Treason? Really? On what planet?
    Earth/North America/United States of America what he just said is a direct violation of what are Founding Fathers strived for. Time to remove him from office today right now.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Interesting that we're debating health care now & not steroid use in MLB or Terry Schaivo though, no?

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And Mussolini, Franco, Ho Chi Minh, Pol Pot, Stalin, Lennon and Idi Amin. Anyone else see a pattern?
    And Jack Kennedy, and Ronald Reagan, and Winston Churchill, and Douglas MacArthur...

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It was more of the same garbage in a different wrapper. I guess PBO seems to think that if he sells the the same BS a different way that people will believe it.
    The problem with your argument is that many conservatives like you came in with the predetermined notion that it is all "BS," which is not true. If you turn down the Fox News and stop worshiping the negative adds that spew lies, maybe you can see the truth that Obama's plan is actually great.

    Its not garbage, but I definitely agree that it is the same thing in a different wrapper, and I liked it. It was about time Obama had sternly addressed the nation as well as the Congress. It is true its the same thing, but it is about time he places it in a different wrapper.


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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And Mussolini, Franco, Ho Chi Minh, Pol Pot, Stalin, Lennon and Idi Amin. Anyone else see a pattern?
    So were Jesus, Jefferson, Buddha...

    Being a good speaker does not make someone evil.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Earth/North America/United States of America what he just said is a direct violation of what are Founding Fathers strived for. Time to remove him from office today right now.
    How so? I am just not making the connection. Maybe I am missing something that is obvious to you.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Yeah in other words you have nothing to add. Were you even alive when Reagan was president? He used hollywood lines and near the end wouldn't remember what he was talking about. I'm still curious about your interpretation of the constitution with "the house and senate confirming appointments"
    Ah yes I was Junior so run along and do your homework like Chairman Obama wants you to.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Have you looked at the GOP proposal? It's not horrible, and would be a great message if they ever used it, and actually negotiated for it. It comes back down to the usual that the GOP(the elected officials, not the members) figures it's safer just to say no than to push for something themselves.

    Yes, but I was heartily disappointed that it was not accompanied by any numbers as to numbers of uninsured it will allow to be covered; and cost of plan. Their plan wasn't really a plan, it was an outline, more or less.


    There are for sure some ideas worthwhile, many of which will be incorporated into what eventually gets signed into law.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post

    Being a good speaker does not make someone evil.
    I'll back that up!! (& I know a few things about evil!!)

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