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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    a rather boring response

    i don't drink

    No caps, or periods, but .... comprehensible nonetheless!

    Okay, no drink for you. But, you will be wrong regardless. The bill will pass the House, and believing some Republican-circulated lie is silly.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    by all means, read the bill

    but read heller too

    you wouldn't want anyone to lie to you

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    No caps, or periods, but .... comprehensible nonetheless!

    Okay, no drink for you. But, you will be wrong regardless. The bill will pass the House, and believing some Republican-circulated lie is silly.
    you don't know what you're talking about

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    you don't know what you're talking about
    We will see, Prof, we will see.

    A vote will be held, and one of us will be right, and the other will be wrong.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    did you read your link?



    So maybe it does not go FAR enough, that is another argument. But lets look a bit more:

    wait here it is here is that one lawmaker.. or wait maybe not, its just his spokesman talking to World Nut Daily
    regardless of the number (LOL!) of people who opined, e-verify was stripped

    246 has no enforcement

    i don't think anyone around here has even heard of heller

    but if you haven't seen the results of that kinda open ended film making before...

    why do YOU think the prez is so suddenly reconfiguring his obamacare to include 30 million CITIZENS?

    it's not partisan of me to see significant signage in that kinda signaling

    call me a cynic

    it is perhaps partisan of anyone who might want to whistle past something so dramatically changed

    to each his own

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    No caps, or periods, but .... comprehensible nonetheless!

    Okay, no drink for you. But, you will be wrong regardless. The bill will pass the House, and believing some Republican-circulated lie is silly.
    the hill is not a republican circulation

    far from it

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    the hill is not a republican circulation

    far from it
    The list is a republican-circulated list.

    But, the Hill is right-leaning.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    watch c-span

    and the list is very hurtful to dems, if that's what you mean by republican-circulated

    i circulated it, for example

    tho i'm a rather reluctant republican

    i won't quibble

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    The legislation under consideration specifically excludes payments of any kind to illegal aliens.
    No, the statement you or Marduc or whoever posted only applies to Subtitle C--Individual Affordability Credits, which is not necessarily "payments of any kind to illegal aliens."

    The CRS statement is not "spin" - they're referencing Subtitle A--Health Insurance Exchange, saying that illegals are not restricted from joining the exchange program (incl. public option).

    Taking a leap of faith on a 1000 page bill, one might arrive at the conclusion that the only way subsidies are provided are through IACs, but that can't be said for certain unless you not only read the entire bill, but really analyze it (a job for a law firm).

    Do you want to claim that there are no loopholes in the bill? The easiest way to close those would have been to state things as simply as you did, which is something they obviously decided NOT to do.

    ____

    But again, all of that is poop. Laws are no good unless they're enforced and the Dems refuse to include enforcement provisions in the bill.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    i don't presume a thing, i posted info for anyone's benefit who's interested

    read it or not, i couldn't care less

    HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THE EXTREME ALTERATION OF LANGUAGE, AT THIS LATE HOUR, FROM PROMISING EXTENDED COVERAGE TO 47 MILLION AMERICANS TO PROMISING INSURANCE FOR 30 MILLION CITIZENS?

    short enough for you, a direct question?

    take care
    Borderline plagiarizing again, prof? Why don't you stop pretending as if you came up with this "47 to 30" right-wing talking point all by your lonesome.

    Anyone who wishes to know the true source of this wacky talking point can visit (Breaking News | Latest News | Current News - FOXNews.com) and fast forward to the fourth minute of the Video, where Frank Luntz advances his ridiculous and predictable "47 to 30" attack angle, or should I say defence of Joe Wilsons total lack of decorum.

    "Up until tonight it was always 47 million Americans, but they realized was that they were defending health care...going to illegal immigrants and reazlied they had to take them out of the pool. So tonight the number is no longer 47, its 30"

    -Frank Luntz on Hannity

    Seriously, prof, if you're gonna parrot a talking point, at least have the decency to source it out correctly and not try to pass it off as your own.

    It just goes to show how utterly partisan your agenda is, that you would blantaly repeat exactly what you heard on FOX News literally moments after it is broadcasted...and not even credit the claim to its proper source.

    Absolutely comical.
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