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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Can't show in the bill where space aliens are not covered either, but I bet they aren't.
    That makes no sense.

    If it's a health care bill, it better state who qualifies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    That makes no sense.

    If it's a health care bill, it better state who qualifies.
    You are starting to confuse people with that common sense. Take it easy.
    Thank you

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    Obama was talking about how illegal immigrants would not be insured and some idiot said "You lie!"

    Gotta love those confused conservatives.
    Kinda funny that the guy who yelled "you lie"....was the biggest friggin liar of them all. North Carolina should hold this LIAR to task for being the liar that he is.

    N.C. Republican Rep.-turned-heckler Joe Wilson who loudly yelled "You lie!" after the president said health care reform wouldn't cover illegal immigrants. The moment threw Obama off track, if briefly. Michelle Obama was reported to have shaken her head in dismay from her seat.Wilson quickly apologized in a statement to CNN, saying, "I let my emotions get the best of me


    You can't simply be a LIAR and then apologize and all is forgiven. Joe Wilson is a Liar and should be voted out by North Carolina for being the liar that he isl.
    Last edited by disneydude; 09-10-09 at 01:27 AM.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    You are starting to confuse people with that common sense. Take it easy.
    Sorry 'bout that!



    I'll go to bed!

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    We dont know he was wrong because the bill has not yet been implemented.
    Time will tell.

    Congressional Research Service: Illegal Aliens Can Receive Benefits Under House Health Care Bill

    "Treatment of Noncitizens in H.R. 3200, states definitively, "H.R. 3200 does not contain any restrictions on noncitizens - whether legally or illegally present, or in the United States temporarily or permanently - participating in the Exchange." H.R. 3200 establishes a Health Insurance Exchange which would provide individuals and small businesses with access to health care plans, including the "public option" to be managed by the government."
    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    How is he wrong? Can you link us to Obama's plan and show us where it clearly states that illegals aren't covered?
    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    That makes no sense.

    If it's a health care bill, it better state who qualifies.
    MISREPRESENTATION TWO: Illegal Immigrants Will Receive Free Health Insurance, Paid for by Taxpayers.
    FACT CHECK: Absolutely False - Illegal Immigrants Will NOT Get Free Coverage.
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    “Pants on Fire” From PolitiFact.com. This one gets another “pants on fire” rating from Politifact.com. FactCheck.org confirms there will be “no federal subsidies for you if you’re in the country illegally.” The independent organization goes on to note that “illegal immigrants aren’t eligible for federal health programs under current law.” [Politifact.com, 7/28/09; FactCheck.org, 7/23/09]
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    Both House and Senate Health Insurance Reform Explicitly Ban Coverage for Illegal Immigrants. Page 143 of the House bill explicitly prohibits federal payments for “undocumented aliens.” Specifically, the bill states, “Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.” Page 111 of the HELP bill defines those who are eligible for premium credits as “a citizen or national of the United States or an alien lawfully admitted to the United States for permanent residence or an alien lawfully present in the United States.” [H.R. 3200; Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions bill]

    http://dpc.senate.gov/reform/reform-...eck-081409.pdf



    Yes, it is wrong. Republicans need to quit lying.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Kinda funny that the guy who yelled "you lie"....was the biggest friggin liar of them all. North Carolina should hold this LIAR to task for being the liar that he is.

    N.C. Republican Rep.-turned-heckler Joe Wilson who loudly yelled "You lie!" after the president said health care reform wouldn't cover illegal immigrants. The moment threw Obama off track, if briefly. Michelle Obama was reported to have shaken her head in dismay from her seat.Wilson quickly apologized in a statement to CNN, saying, "I let my emotions get the best of me


    You can't simply be a LIAR and then apologize and all is forgiven. Joe Wilson is a Liar and should be voted out by North Carolina for being the liar that he isl.
    South Carolina .... home of Mark Sanford and Jim Demint and Eric Cantor
    I think he'll be re=elected.


    oops, scratch that, not Eric Cantor

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    South Carolina .... home of Mark Sanford and Jim Demint and Eric Cantor
    I think he'll be re=elected.
    This s North Carolina...home to one of the BIGGEST LIARS ever....Jesse Helms.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    This s North Carolina...home to one of the BIGGEST LIARS ever....Jesse Helms.
    South Carolina actually: Joe Wilson (U.S. politician) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Yeah...I thought I read North Carolina. My apologies to North Carolina...South Carolina should be ashamed of this idiot.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    MISREPRESENTATION TWO: Illegal Immigrants Will Receive Free Health Insurance, Paid for by Taxpayers.
    FACT CHECK: Absolutely False - Illegal Immigrants Will NOT Get Free Coverage.
    ��
    “Pants on Fire” From PolitiFact.com. This one gets another “pants on fire” rating from Politifact.com. FactCheck.org confirms there will be “no federal subsidies for you if you’re in the country illegally.” The independent organization goes on to note that “illegal immigrants aren’t eligible for federal health programs under current law.” [Politifact.com, 7/28/09; FactCheck.org, 7/23/09]
    ��
    Both House and Senate Health Insurance Reform Explicitly Ban Coverage for Illegal Immigrants. Page 143 of the House bill explicitly prohibits federal payments for “undocumented aliens.” Specifically, the bill states, “Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.” Page 111 of the HELP bill defines those who are eligible for premium credits as “a citizen or national of the United States or an alien lawfully admitted to the United States for permanent residence or an alien lawfully present in the United States.” [H.R. 3200; Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions bill]

    http://dpc.senate.gov/reform/reform-...eck-081409.pdf

    Yes, it is wrong. Republicans need to quit lying.
    CRS analysis

    "The CRS analysis comes after weeks of denials by Members of Congress that illegal aliens could receive benefits under the House bill. These denials were echoed by countless media and health care "experts" who dismissed public concerns as myths, or as politically orchestrated attacks.


    "Case closed. Illegal aliens will be eligible to participate in the health care program offered by the House bill unless Congress acts to amend the bill," stated Dan Stein, president of FAIR. "The loopholes and omissions in the House bill are not there by accident," continued Stein. "These loopholes were intended to extend benefits to illegal aliens while allowing Members of Congress to deny those facts to the American people.""


    Maybe we are all just using different definitions for the same words.
    Thank you

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