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Presidential Address

PogueMoran said:
I dont have a "dear leader" who is it you're speaking of and why did you commit blasphemy by calling someone else a messiah?
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Yes you do. His name s Barack Obama. He tells you what to think and what to say in his defense.
 
apdst said:
Yes you do. His name s Barack Obama. He tells you what to think and what to say in his defense.
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He's not my leader. See how nutty you sound? So far only the most offbase people on the right call him Messiah, God-King, etc. It makes you guys sound crazy when you guys are the only one using those words to describe Obama. Why don't you tell everyone on this site what they think while you're at it. You've already made up your mind.
 
apdst said:
That's what TORT reform would do. However, the lawyers in COngress aren't going to le anyone mess with their money pot.
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Not at the expense of limiting the right to sue for real lawsuits.

If you can come up with a way to deal with the abundance of cheap lawsuits, while maintaining the right for Americans to sue for any amount they want concerning severe/criminal malpractice suits, I'm sure everyone will agree.

The problem is, tort reform proponents want to limit everyhting.
 
The_Limt said:
Not at the expense of limiting the right to sue for real lawsuits.

If you can come up with a way to deal with the abundance of cheap lawsuits, while maintaining the right for Americans to sue for any amount they want concerning severe/criminal malpractice suits, I'm sure everyone will agree.

The problem is, tort reform proponents want to limit everyhting.
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I don't think that's true, unless you have some information I'm not aware of. Do you?
 
Gill said:
Which is it?? Last month it was 47 mil without insurance and now it's 30 mil that cannot get insurance. Did he subtract the people that can afford insurance but choose not to? If so, is he including the illegals without insurance in the mix. The difference of 17 mil does NOT include both those that choose not to have insurance AND illegals.

He's playing games with numbers.




I'm still waiting on you to quote a provision in HR 3200 that requires proof of citizenship to receive government paid health care.
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You should pay attention.
This has been gone over several times.

47 million is accurate - the number of uninsured in the US.
30 million is accurate - the number of uninsured citizens who cannot get insurance.

Subsets are an important concept in math.


And, the requirement that you must be a citizen to receive federal money for health care has been reviewed multiple times as well. Multiple articles, even the page number of the HR3200 bill has been posted, as well as the page number of Senate bills.

Willful ignorance is not pretty.
 
apdst said:
That's what TORT reform would do. However, the lawyers in COngress aren't going to le anyone mess with their money pot.
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That is one possible aspect of Tort reform. Read up on the subject.
 
apdst said:
I meant your Dear Leader.
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I find out so many things about myself that I never knew from apdst. He loves to tell people what they believe and think.
 
jackalope said:
You should pay attention.
This has been gone over several times.

47 million is accurate - the number of uninsured in the US.
30 million is accurate - the number of uninsured citizens who cannot get insurance.

Subsets are an important concept in math.


And, the requirement that you must be a citizen to receive federal money for health care has been reviewed multiple times as well. Multiple articles, even the page number of the HR3200 bill has been posted, as well as the page number of Senate bills.

Willful ignorance is not pretty.
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Neither is will disregard of a post.

Your contention is that there are 47 million uninsured.
Of that number, 30 million cannot get health insurance.

Where are the illegal aliens in these numbers?? and don't try and claim they are in neither.

I posted my proof that illegals will be able to get insurance based on the given fact that proof of legal residency is not required.

You have proven nothing.
 
jallman said:
No, Redress doesn't. But they do have SouthernDemocrat and he LOVES to tell people what they think and believe.
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The funniest part, is that my comment wasn't even directed at Redress.
 
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apdst said:
Feel better?
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Yeah...and it sure looked like your post was directed at Redress. Redress makes a comment and your return to redress is "So do you". How is that not directed at redress?
 
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Gill said:
Neither is will disregard of a post.

Your contention is that there are 47 million uninsured.
Of that number, 30 million cannot get health insurance.

Where are the illegal aliens in these numbers?? and don't try and claim they are in neither.

I posted my proof that illegals will be able to get insurance based on the given fact that proof of legal residency is not required.

You have proven nothing.
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Go to the census report or the Kaiser report and get the numbers yourself. I've posted them enough, and tire of willful ignorance. Do some research, it's good for you.
 
jallman said:
Yeah...and it sure looked like your post was directed at Redress. Redress makes a comment and your return to redress is "So do you". How is that not directed at redress?
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That's not the post I was referring to. Try and keep up.
 
apdst said:
That's not the post I was referring to. Try and keep up.
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Then why did you quote it?

Nevermind, I've seen enough of your handy-work around here to know that it is a pointless endeavor to try and have a conversation with you when you revert to this form. Let's just both save ourselves the aggravation and move along. kthanxbai.
 
akyron said:
That assessment is a bit premature. Time will certainly tell though.
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Section 246 of the bill..... no non-citizens. It can't be clear enough. Now, of course, we don't have the final bill, but this most certainly make it in.
 
Scorpion89 said:
Oh I love this part,

"I will not waste time with those who have made the calculation that it's better politics to kill this plan than improve it," he told a joint session of Congress and a national television audience. "If you misrepresent what's in the plan, we will call you out."

So Mr. Obama want's a War with the Middle Class then fine he will get what he is asking for. What a Jackass time to remove him from Office what he just said is Treason and he should be arrest and thrown in the deepest dark hole.
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Really? Treason?

/facepalm.
 
formerroadie said:
Section 246 of the bill..... no non-citizens. It can't be clear enough. Now, of course, we don't have the final bill, but this most certainly make it in.
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Quote the language from that section that requires proof of citizenship.
 
jallman said:
Then why did you quote it?

Nevermind, I've seen enough of your handy-work around here to know that it is a pointless endeavor to try and have a conversation with you when you revert to this form. Let's just both save ourselves the aggravation and move along. kthanxbai.
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I'm still confused about how one can quote a post, post a response, and then tell you to try and keep up because his response was not even relevant to the post he quoted.
 
formerroadie said:
Section 246 of the bill..... no non-citizens. It can't be clear enough. Now, of course, we don't have the final bill, but this most certainly make it in.
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It does say that and that's all it says. No where in the bill does it require patients to prove citizenship, nor does it require medical personel to ask for proof of citizenship.

Anyone that thinks illegal aliens aren't going to receive free medical care under this plan need to put that crack pipe down for a minute.
 
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