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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    I liked the laudible goals but as usual there was no way to get there presented. I saw some polling numbers and they were nearly the same as when president Clinton attempted this.

    Bottom line of the presentation was everything is going to be fine and cost nothing.

    Now does anyone actually believe any of that?
    Well, I don't think any of us can really talk about a theoritical thing. We need to wait and see on this.
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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Theres a difference between talking loudly, and obstructing conversation, and many believe that line was crossed. Will anything happen? Probably not.

    And 2 wrongs don't make a right.
    maybe two wrongs do not make a right but conversation and debate is cut off when someone says that someone such as a president should be brought up on chatrges of treason because he proposed a policy that you do not agree with. The same thing with trying to reason with the birther idiots. If you shoe them the birth certificate they say it's only a picture or it's a short form or it's a cert of live birth.. what can you do with those idiots pass the origonal paper BC to all the millions of the haters. ?
    I do not recall the Viet Cong asking me if I was a natural born or Naturalized American before they shot at me, they just shot at all of us f107HyperSabr

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewC View Post
    How can they after the way they have behaved?
    A desire for actual common sense reform and not another government takeover is bad behavior?
    Thank you

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    It won't pass the Blue Dogs have enough votes to stop it or is Mr. Obama going to go up against the Blue Dogs also, if so then he will loss anything he wants to try to do.
    I think tonight's speech sealed the fate of the anti-HC obstructionists on both sides of the aisle. Obama did what he dos best....Got American voters on his side.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    maybe two wrongs do not make a right but conversation and debate is cut off when someone says that someone such as a president should be brought up on chatrges of treason because he proposed a policy that you do not agree with. The same thing with trying to reason with the birther idiots. If you shoe them the birth certificate they say it's only a picture or it's a short form or it's a cert of live birth.. what can you do with those idiots pass the origonal paper BC to all the millions of the haters. ?
    I was actually referring to the loud-mouthed idiots in the town-hall debates. As for accusing the President of high treason....if Bush didn't get convicted, and sentenced for it, Obama shouldn't even be accused of it.

    And nevertheless, when fighting an idiocracy, you need to stay above, and try to avoid taking potshots at 'em, due to moral implications....
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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    A desire for actual common sense reform and not another government takeover is bad behavior?
    They are trying to kill any HC reform & we all know it! (listen to your own Jim DeMint)

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    A desire for actual common sense reform and not another government takeover is bad behavior?
    You don't honestly believe that do you?
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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    maybe two wrongs do not make a right but conversation and debate is cut off when someone says that someone such as a president should be brought up on chatrges of treason because he proposed a policy that you do not agree with. The same thing with trying to reason with the birther idiots. If you shoe them the birth certificate they say it's only a picture or it's a short form or it's a cert of live birth.. what can you do with those idiots pass the origonal paper BC to all the millions of the haters. ?
    Unlike you Sir I beleive in the US Constitution and the President can;t go and make the comment he just made they are clear violation of the Constitution by saying if you try to use your 1st Adm we will go after you is Treason.

    As for the Birth Cert, well you know allot could have been made to go away if he just tells HW. to release the Long Form he does have that power. Sort of like when Mr. W. Bush Military records ere released that story went away also.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    I was actually referring to the loud-mouthed idiots in the town-hall debates. As for accusing the President of high treason....if Bush didn't get convicted, and sentenced for it, Obama shouldn't even be accused of it.

    And nevertheless, when fighting an idiocracy, you need to stay above, and try to avoid taking potshots at 'em, due to moral implications....
    agree but by patience was exhousted
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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I think tonight's speech sealed the fate of the anti-HC obstructionists on both sides of the aisle. Obama did what he dos best....Got American voters on his side.
    Not even close the 20 Blue Dogs have already stated today and yesterday no matter what Mr. Obama said they were going ot vote against and Health Care Bill that is more then enough to kill it. Just like they did with Mr. Clinton the Dems can't afford to go up against the Blue Dogs if they take them on then all of what Mr. Obama might try to do will come to a crashing hault.

    Don't forget most of the Blue Dogs are in position of powwr on the right sub-committies.

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