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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    He really just rallied the Democrats, and shunned the Republicans. Between calling them liars, and going on about what they clearly don't like...he's hurting himself in that respect.
    acually I think that he showed that he had brass ones. The crap such death panels is so outrageous that it only deserves one response and that response is what the president gave them - you lie ....
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    Re: Presidential Address

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    I don't like to accuse people of racism and did not do that before but when people pull high treason out of their asses becaue they disagree with with the president over a proposed policy on healthcare what else can we be the excuse. Disagree on the potential costs of the plan, the doability, the question of whether healthcare is a right or privelege but if a so called debater can only come up with "high treason" give me a break !!

    by using the "race card" I did that purposely to fight fire with fire, the outrageous with the outrageous.. extremism vs extremism..
    Theres a difference between talking loudly, and obstructing conversation, and many believe that line was crossed. Will anything happen? Probably not.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I don't think this will have a real impact on his poll rating, but might help him with congress.
    I think that the positive effects will last 3-4 days .. but what he did show that he will show a fight and he did not show that earlier or not often enough.
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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    He was quite hard on them, and I think that might backfire when he needs votes.
    I'm not sure he needs their votes. I'm also sure that Republicans have no intention of voting for any health care reform bill that both Obama and Democrats support. How can they after the way they have behaved?

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewC View Post
    I'm not sure he needs their votes. I'm also sure that Republicans have no intention of voting for any health care reform bill that both Obama and Democrats support. How can they after the way they have behaved?
    Well thats a good point, but that doesn't necessarily mean we should shut the door on inviting them to the table. Any purely partisan bill won't work, regardless of quality. You need p.o.v.'s on both side to help balance it out.
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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewC View Post
    I'm not sure he needs their votes. I'm also sure that Republicans have no intention of voting for any health care reform bill that both Obama and Democrats support. How can they after the way they have behaved?
    He doesn't need them. As long as he can keep the Blue Dogs dems in line, that's all he needs. Come to think of it....I think the GOP tried to stop medicaid in the 1960's too.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    It won't pass the Blue Dogs have enough votes to stop it or is Mr. Obama going to go up against the Blue Dogs also, if so then he will loss anything he wants to try to do.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Well thats a good point, but that doesn't necessarily mean we should shut the door on inviting them to the table. Any purely partisan bill won't work, regardless of quality. You need p.o.v.'s on both side to help balance it out.
    It will include many GOP desires (like tort reform) even without a single GOP vote.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    I liked the laudible goals but as usual there was no way to get there presented. I saw some polling numbers and they were nearly the same as when president Clinton attempted this.

    Bottom line of the presentation was everything is going to be fine and cost nothing.

    Now does anyone actually believe any of that?
    Thank you

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    Well it will cost less than the bush tax cuts that the republicans rammed through to which we saw no real benefit

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