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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Whatta you think?!??!
    I think you'll see a definite rise in Obama's approval rating over the next few weeks due to this speech.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No, he is saying that those who misrepresent the plan will be told they are wrong publicly. In other words, they are going to be more aggressive countering what they see as lies, but not trying to shut people up, just correcting them.
    Really hmm not by what he said in this one line

    "I will not waste time with those who have made the calculation that it's better politics to kill this plan than improve it,


    That is a direct attack towards any American who speaks out against his plan and is a clear violation of the 1st. Adm and he needs to be arrested for it.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I think you'll see a definite rise in Obama's approval rating over the next few weeks due to this speech.
    I think you're dreaming!...
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Really hmm not by what he said in this one line

    "I will not waste time with those who have made the calculation that it's better politics to kill this plan than improve it,


    That is a direct attack towards any American who speaks out against his plan and is a clear violation of the 1st. Adm and he needs to be arrested for it.
    The President has the clear right to ignore crazy people.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Really hmm not by what he said in this one line

    "I will not waste time with those who have made the calculation that it's better politics to kill this plan than improve it,


    That is a direct attack towards any American who speaks out against his plan and is a clear violation of the 1st. Adm and he needs to be arrested for it.
    How is this a violation of the 1st amendment? Ignoring people is not a violation of freedom of speech. That's what he basically said. Its not chinese he's talking here.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I think you're dreaming!...
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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewC View Post
    Well, I'm impressed. I thought it was a good speech. I didn't think there was anything he could do to make me feel better about his intentions, but he did.

    He really smacked down Republicans. In my opinion he made them look very small. I don't think Obama can do half of what he says he wants to do. However, considering I don't think Congress is going to change monetary policy. Considering I don't think Congress is going to change foreign policy or drastically cut spending in all areas. This may be as good as it gets.

    These things are most important to me:

    It must be law that health care reform be budget neutral. If it ends up not being budget neutral. It must be discontinued or spending cuts make up the difference.
    It must be law that any public option or health insurance exchange must be self-sufficient. No taxpayer funds what so ever. If it can't survive on its own. It must die or spending cuts used to make up the difference.
    Insurance companies should be required to pay when people get sick. This is just common sense. Why buy insurance if they can just drop you when you actually need it.
    Everyone should be required to carry some type of health insurance. As Obama said, this helps insurance companies cope with actually fulfilling their obligations. Everyone should pay something.
    I would prefer that government not dictate the type of coverage that insurance companies must provide. Not everyone needs the same amount of coverage. The only thing government should mandate is that all citizens must have health insurance and that insurance companies actually PAY OUT INSURANCE. I know, it is a novel idea.

    If Repubs can be assured that by law. This bill is budget neutral and that any government exchange or insurance must be self-sufficient. I don't see why they can't vote for it. If they aren't willing to reform monetary policy or drastically reduce government spending. They really don't have a viable alternative.
    Thanks for an honest reply.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    Calling someone out is not the same as shutting them up. Its likely that this phrase from the ideas that the old west, when duelers would "call each other outside" for a fight.

    Obama is basically saying that if someone misrepresents the plan through lies, he will call them to debate and fight them, not shut them up.
    Sorry if you speak out against it you will be hunted down that is what Mr. Obama is saying. He has declared war on the Middle Class big mistake the last time a Dem tried this She got smack around for it.

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Sorry if you speak out against it you will be hunted down that is what Mr. Obama is saying. He has declared war on the Middle Class big mistake the last time a Dem tried this She got smack around for it.
    Oh man!!!

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    Re: Presidential Address

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    The President has the clear right to ignore crazy people.
    Oh so your saying that all the folks who have been showing up at Town Hall meeting voicing their opposition to Health Bill are Crazy

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