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    Re: Obama to seal US-UN relationship

    No, why else would he feel the need to be the first president to participate in a security council meeting?
    Because he likes to make caucus jokes with the worlds diplomats? Pretty much any explanation is more likely than your laughable conspiracy.

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    Re: Obama to seal US-UN relationship

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    actually, less than half the people of america thought he was qualified
    Actually only 22.8% thought he was qualified if we are considering voting as qualified.

    There are over 300 million in the US. 69 million voted for Obama. Therefore 77.1% don't consider him qualified. But that's marginally better then Dubya, who had 21.3% qualified. I'd be interested in finding the point in time where there were more people who considered the loser more qualified then today's contemporary winners.
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    Re: Obama to seal US-UN relationship

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    overall getting the world powers to unify against rouge parties and terrorists is decent diplomatic work.


    I agree. Rouge is an awful color and we should unify against it.
    Thank you

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    Re: Obama to seal US-UN relationship

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, why else would he feel the need to be the first president to participate in a security council meeting?
    Because the situation in Iran is critical?

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    Re: Obama to seal US-UN relationship

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Because the situation in Iran is critical?
    If it's that critical, then the bombers need to be launched, now. A buncha sittin' around talking about it ain't gonna do anything.
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    Re: Obama to seal US-UN relationship

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Whatever. He got 51% of the vote and was elected President of the United States. If you don't think he's qualified, you needed to convince the voters of that last year. Now that he's president it doesn't make sense to argue he's unqualified to perform his duties such as Chief Diplomat.

    I'm curious...at what point in his presidency do you think he'll be "qualified," and do you believe that being qualified necessarily entails agreeing with YOU on every single issue?

    Hell, I think *I* am qualified to chair a meeting of the Security Council. I know the procedural matters well enough from Model UN, and am sure I could study up on the US government's position on whatever they're debating, given a few weeks. It really isn't that difficult.
    Obvious child has pointed out how factually inaccurate the original quote was. And that is all i was pointing out
    He is not as popular as purported. His poll numbers are below Dubya's
    he is in steady decline, and if his approval ratings on handling UHC is worsening as well.

    As far as being prepared for the Security, i trust you feeling you were ready because you pretended in mock UN was a touch of humor to lighten the post

    Obama will be ready in my eyes only after he actually achieves something tough. He has been attacked as a polished empty vessel, a community organizer, and an empty suit that reads a teleprompter real purdy.

    when controversy has arose, he has folded. the school speech being his latest, the back tracking on public option and than the 'resignation of Van Jones'

    He may gain some respect from me when he stands by his principles, weathers the storm and is proven to be a man of his convictions. He doesnt even have to be seen as 'right in my eyes'

    Politicians I respect for better or worse stand on 'their principles' even if they are just politically motivated. 'this is what they want, and whether they win or lose, they stood for their position.'

    Obviously there are a lot of reasons in Congress to negotiate and settle, but a President is supposed to LEAD the Nation. not talk purdy and take what he can get.

    there are a lot of loons totally opposed to Dear Leader, but alot of country is aligned with him, and a segment on the right, which is far greater than the loons, are willing to be convinced with reasonable changes that are necessary in America

    Good luck trying to find someone against reform in Healthcare. What differs is the manner of reform. It seems Obama wants to do it all the Lefts way and **** the Rights wishes/desires. When it seems there is easily a piece of legislation that leaves an equally bad taste in both sides mouths, yet would pass and be acceptable

    Personally, I would like to see Obama Fix existing Federal and/or State Healthcare programs to show everybody what he wants to implement on a National level is do-able

    **** is ****ed up in healthcare and the left just wants to create the biggest program without fixing what already is. In the business world we call that FAIL

    But maybe his speech tonight will show an entirely new direction, (no convictions) that appeals to more people. But since I have no tv I will not know what it details until it is brought up here

    /babble

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    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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    Re: Obama to seal US-UN relationship

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Obama was elected by the people of this country. The president is, and always has been, Chief Diplomat. Whether you like it or not, the people of this country have decided that Obama is qualified for that particular job. So bitching that he's actually going to fulfill his duties is the height of absurdity.

    If you don't like that executive arrangement, you can move to England, where the head of state and head of government are divided between a queen and a prime minister.
    Calm yourself, lest you develop apoplexy.

    The "people of this country" make mistakes, they are after all only people. This is why we don't choose presidents-for-life.

    The president may be the chief diplomat, but that hardly means that he is immune from the effects of megalomania or a fundamental lack of wisdom.

    Also, you would be well advised to apply your statements the the presidency of George Bush the Latter, who was elected twice, indicating that his polices were approved by that most fickle of beasts (see Alexander Hamilton,) the People.
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    Re: Obama to seal US-UN relationship

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    Calm yourself, lest you develop apoplexy.

    The "people of this country" make mistakes, they are after all only people. This is why we don't choose presidents-for-life.

    The president may be the chief diplomat, but that hardly means that he is immune from the effects of megalomania or a fundamental lack of wisdom.
    By all means, criticize Obama's "fundamental lack of wisdom" if you think it's a problem. I'm just saying that it's a little late to call his experience into question. The time to make that case to the American people was BEFORE the election, and they rejected it.

    You don't hire someone for a job, and then prevent them from fulfilling their duties because they are unqualified. If you think they're unqualified, you just don't hire them in the first place.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold
    Also, you would be well advised to apply your statements the the presidency of George Bush the Latter, who was elected twice, indicating that his polices were approved by that most fickle of beasts (see Alexander Hamilton,) the People.
    I never suggested that Bush shouldn't fulfill his duties because of his lack of experience. I merely questioned the WAY in which he fulfilled them.
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    Re: Obama to seal US-UN relationship

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    By all means, criticize Obama's "fundamental lack of wisdom" if you think it's a problem. I'm just saying that it's a little late to call his experience into question. The time to make that case to the American people was BEFORE the election, and they rejected it.
    I'm sure it will come into play in a couple years.
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    Re: Obama to seal US-UN relationship

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    By all means, criticize Obama's "fundamental lack of wisdom" if you think it's a problem. I'm just saying that it's a little late to call his experience into question. The time to make that case to the American people was BEFORE the election, and they rejected it.

    You don't hire someone for a job, and then prevent them from fulfilling their duties because they are unqualified. If you think they're unqualified, you just don't hire them in the first place.



    I never suggested that Bush shouldn't fulfill his duties because of his lack of experience. I merely questioned the WAY in which he fulfilled them.
    barry is a highly experienced community organizer and maybe that will come in useful in the joke that is called the UN

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    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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