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    Re: Obama to seal US-UN relationship

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Obama was elected by the people of this country. The president is, and always has been, Chief Diplomat. Whether you like it or not, the people of this country have decided that Obama is qualified for that particular job. So bitching that he's actually going to fulfill his duties is the height of absurdity.

    If you don't like that executive arrangement, you can move to England, where the head of state and head of government are divided between a queen and a prime minister.
    actually, less than half the people of america thought he was qualified

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    Re: Obama to seal US-UN relationship

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Man can't take a joke. He'll have the French ambassador standing by.
    See, now I found that funny.

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    Re: Obama to seal US-UN relationship

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    I suppose I have somewhat mixed sentiments about that. A permanent position on the Security Council has often been used by hegemonic political regimes ruling the U.S. to defy international consensus with their veto power.
    Of which there is no legitimate criticism, as whenever 'international consensus' interferes with the interests of the US, the US -should- exercise its veto power; any leader of the US that does not should be immediately ousted.

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    Re: Obama to seal US-UN relationship

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    actually, less than half the people of america thought he was qualified
    Whatever. He got 51% of the vote and was elected President of the United States. If you don't think he's qualified, you needed to convince the voters of that last year. Now that he's president it doesn't make sense to argue he's unqualified to perform his duties such as Chief Diplomat.

    I'm curious...at what point in his presidency do you think he'll be "qualified," and do you believe that being qualified necessarily entails agreeing with YOU on every single issue?

    Hell, I think *I* am qualified to chair a meeting of the Security Council. I know the procedural matters well enough from Model UN, and am sure I could study up on the US government's position on whatever they're debating, given a few weeks. It really isn't that difficult.
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    Re: Obama to seal US-UN relationship

    i hate the UN. the UN make the US look weak and help Russia t o be
    more powverful.

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    Re: Obama to seal US-UN relationship

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I could go on for pages on that. I could seriously spend hours typing up a long list of complaints and venting about that, but I never get the chance because some one is creating yet another thread that is either factually just wrong, or inflammatory, or calls liberals names, or misleading...and I get caught up defending the guy from the attacks, and never get around to doing my venting about Obama.
    So vent already!

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    Re: Obama to seal US-UN relationship

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    So vent already!
    Maybe later tonight, on a break at the moment, so not enough time. I am moving soon(finally sold my farm, close week from this coming Friday, so I got to get ready to move), and that is keeping me busy. It's just my luck that I finally get called back to work, and have to get ready to move at same time.

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    Re: Obama to seal US-UN relationship

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    FT.com / US & Canada - Obama to seal US-UN relationship


    well I think this will be a huge firestorm that will dwarf his school speech and astroturfing.

    Must admit though, he sure has made a lot of moves for a community organizer

    what is so special about him that his presence is required at the Security Council?
    PBO will need the assistance of foreign militaries, if he attempts to take control of the government by force. He already knows that he will not have the support of the American military.
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    Re: Obama to seal US-UN relationship

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    PBO will need the assistance of foreign militaries, if he attempts to take control of the government by force. He already knows that he will not have the support of the American military.
    Please tell me you are joking...

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    Re: Obama to seal US-UN relationship

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Please tell me you are joking...
    No, why else would he feel the need to be the first president to participate in a security council meeting?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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