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    Re: Fines proposed for going without health insurance

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHat View Post
    It doesnt matter either way. They will just create procedures and justifications for it out of thin air.
    That's what I'm asking -- is there some criminal procedure for the levy of these fines?

    If not, then on what grounds are the fines laid?

    These questions arent trivial - they address the nature of the fines themselves.

    Either way, everyone will be forced into a new cost on their income. We are going to criminalize otherwise law abiding citizens for the sake of making sure government has a little more control over you.
    Of this, there is no doubt.

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    Re: Fines proposed for going without health insurance

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    This does not address my post.
    That doesn't answer the question.

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    Re: Fines proposed for going without health insurance

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    That doesn't answer the question.
    I know. His question was in response to mione, and as such, I need not answer it. Fact remains, his question does not address my post.

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    Re: Fines proposed for going without health insurance

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I know. His question was in response to mione, and as such, I need not answer it. Fact remains, his question does not address my post.
    That still doesn't answer the question.

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    Re: Fines proposed for going without health insurance

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    That still doesn't answer the question.
    Yes, and I have explained why your observation, while correct, doesn't mean anything.

    Care to address the issue at hand?

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    Re: Fines proposed for going without health insurance

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Yes, and I have explained why your observation, while correct, doesn't mean anything.

    Care to address the issue at hand?
    I'm still waiting for a question to be answered.

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    Re: Fines proposed for going without health insurance

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I'm still waiting for a question to be answered.
    Hold your breath.

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    Re: Fines proposed for going without health insurance

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Hold your breath.
    You've still failed to address the question.

    It's ok though...I understand that you saw yourself being worked into a trap by your own admission and you did the prudent thing which was to shut your pie hole as quickly as possible.

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    Re: Fines proposed for going without health insurance

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    You've still failed to address the question.

    It's ok though...I understand that you saw yourself being worked into a trap by your own admission and you did the prudent thing which was to shut your pie hole as quickly as possible.
    Good to see you still have that active fantasy life.

    When you can add something useful to the coversation, please let us know.

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    Re: Fines proposed for going without health insurance

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Just answer me this. Why is is currently cheaper for a large business to offer someone insurance than it is for a small business?
    Resources sir.

    Why do we insure basic services, which do nothing then jack up prices for insurance?

    Insurance is there for catastrophic events, not routine checkups. How many people just today billed their insurance company b/c they had a headache? A fever? A runny nose? A bruise on their leg?

    Hell I remember doing rounds with my brother-in-law, and out of a weeks worth of patients, there might have been 10 all week who actually needed to see him. One guy came in b/c his son hit a baseball and hit him in the calf and his calf was bruised....lol. What? Did the guy want my brother-in-law to tell him he popped some blood vessels? We are a nation of OCD idiots, who at a moments whim run off to the doctor for every ailment under the sun, and for what? Each and everyone of those people billed their insurance for their visits. The woman with her 2 kids who had runny noses wanted antibiotics b/c she couldnt take them sniffing all the time. How much did that cost?

    We are billing insurance companies for basic stuff, that need not be insured at all. Insurance companies like dealing with businesses b/c they can jack up premiums more easily b/c big business has the cash flow to pay it. Could they jack up prices if they had to deal strictly with us? Hell no. They would be forced to be competitive with one another, like car or homeowners insurance. Biggest joke is the "preventative medicine" stuff....lol. Preventing disease, requires a vaccine, a cure, otherwise you cant prevent it from occuring. Not to mention, preventative medicine, in the form they are talking is the same basic stuff as they cover now, so costs wont move down at all, up is the way it will go.

    But I am long here. I could go on and on but it would take to long.

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