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    Re: Fines proposed for going without health insurance

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Nearly all health insurance mandates are coupled with financial aid to those who can't afford it.
    Hey, ya want to know what kind of financial aid is out there for those who cant afford it? The Democrats passed something back in the 1960s called Medicaid. How about just fixing that and stop with all this overhaul of the medial industry which isnt needed?

    This plan is no exception. No one is going to be fined because they can't afford health insurance.
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    Re: Fines proposed for going without health insurance

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    everybody wants reform
    Not the GOP or Big Insurance

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    you would have to be brain dead not to want reform
    Agreed ....but see my above response.

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    it is the type of reform that is controversial
    ANY "type" of reform will always be unacceptable to the insurance companies & their GOP mouthpieces.

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    Re: Fines proposed for going without health insurance

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Not the GOP or Big Insurance
    Really care to provide defense for that?


    Agreed ....but see my above response.


    ANY "type" of reform will always be unacceptable to the insurance companies & their GOP mouthpieces.
    Here is the kicker to all you liberals. Your party, the Democrat Party, passed Medicaid back in the 1960s to cover the very thing we are still talking about covering today.

    Yet you guys want a total revamp of the medical industry, instead of simply tweeking your own party's legislation to cover those it was suppose to cover 50 years ago.

    Face it, your own progressive liberal kingdom, is falling all around you and you dont even see it. If we have to create a whole new program, then that means the previous programs set in place by the very same group of people has failed to live up to its original intent.

    But we wont talk about that, no, instead we are gonna talk about handing the government a power which it was never meant to have and should never have.

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    Re: Fines proposed for going without health insurance

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    Comparing mandatory health insurance to compulsory auto insurance is ridiculous. Auto insurance is mandatory due to the the fact that you have the ability to cause injury or damage the property of others.

    Who's property am I that they can demand that I provide coverage to protect myself? I'm not hurting anyone if I elect to not have health insurance...
    Disagree.
    Bear in mind that I consider insurance to be an "evil", however necessary.

    We have two groups of men; one elects not to have insurance to ease their health costs; the other chooses the insurance..
    Guess who pays more when the first group cannot pay their hospital or doctor bill??
    And tragedy can fall on anyone.
    The solution is to increase the taxes and have affordable health care for all true citizens ..

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    Re: Fines proposed for going without health insurance

    I only really have one comment about this. If the government does try to fine me for not having medical insurance I will not pay the fine. Then they can decide if they want to spend alot more on me by providing my room and board in a nice federal institution. Im just that stubborn.

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    Re: Fines proposed for going without health insurance

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Not the GOP or Big Insurance


    Agreed ....but see my above response.


    ANY "type" of reform will always be unacceptable to the insurance companies & their GOP mouthpieces.
    I'd love to see an investigative reporter ask the insurance company about their practices and to look at their books...Also to ask, and demand absolutely truthful answers about the campaign money for politicians.
    This is why I favor another tax increase and government financed campaigns and election reform.
    The goal is to prevent men from buying elections and to eliminate the huge waste - which is what advertising is..

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    Re: Fines proposed for going without health insurance

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHat View Post
    Really care to provide defense for that?
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    Re: Fines proposed for going without health insurance

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    I'd love to see an investigative reporter ask the insurance company about their practices and to look at their books...Also to ask, and demand absolutely truthful answers about the campaign money for politicians.
    This is why I favor another tax increase and government financed campaigns and election reform.
    The goal is to prevent men from buying elections and to eliminate the huge waste - which is what advertising is..
    I heard yesterday a report saying that the insurance industry has spent almost 400 million dollars ...In the lat 8 months alone...trying to kill HC reform. (How many cancer operations would that money have been better spent on?)

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    Re: Fines proposed for going without health insurance

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I heard yesterday a report saying that the insurance industry has spent almost 400 million dollars ...In the lat 8 months alone...trying to kill HC reform. (How many cancer operations would that money have been better spent on?)
    Do you expect an entire industry which is about to be run out of business to simply go out of business b/c the government wants their entire market?

    Seriously? They have to spend money in order to fight back against government encroachment on their businesses.

    How do you leftista always manage to miss the root causes of problems and only deal with symptoms? The insurance industry is spending money b/c they are having to fight to stay alive b/c YOUR government wants to take over their industry.

    Can you leftists please provide me with something that you are against the government intruding into? Or are all ideas proposed by Big Brother just to darn sweet to pass up?

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    Re: Fines proposed for going without health insurance

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHat View Post
    Really care to provide defense for that?




    Here is the kicker to all you liberals. Your party, the Democrat Party, passed Medicaid back in the 1960s to cover the very thing we are still talking about covering today.

    Yet you guys want a total revamp of the medical industry, instead of simply tweeking your own party's legislation to cover those it was suppose to cover 50 years ago.

    Face it, your own progressive liberal kingdom, is falling all around you and you dont even see it. If we have to create a whole new program, then that means the previous programs set in place by the very same group of people has failed to live up to its original intent.

    But we wont talk about that, no, instead we are gonna talk about handing the government a power which it was never meant to have and should never have.The powers of government should be flexible, never set in concrete.
    Totally disagree
    Our government would not have to be doing this if the people, all of the people would be fully responsible for their health care.

    Medicare, for what it does , is, IMO, a joke, and not a funny one....Its a result of political compromise. .and, as dirty as politics are, should be flushed down the toilet.

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