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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

    Another man's job ruined by the right. He renounced these ideas before he was hired and the right decided to destroy his job, reputation, and livelihood. I have never seen anything like the political atmosphere the Right is creating right now. The Clinton years were ridiculous, but this is like that on steroids. What gives? Throw all rationality, facts, and sanity out the door because you lost? Argh. Whether in power or out of power, the right continues to make Americans look very very stupid.
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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by formerroadie View Post
    Another man's job ruined by the right. He renounced these ideas before he was hired and the right decided to destroy his job, reputation, and livelihood. I have never seen anything like the political atmosphere the Right is creating right now. The Clinton years were ridiculous, but this is like that on steroids. What gives? Throw all rationality, facts, and sanity out the door because you lost? Argh. Whether in power or out of power, the right continues to make Americans look very very stupid.

    Riiiiiight.

    And I'm sure you'd be so charitable to a Birther who later "renounced" these views.

    Riiiiiight.
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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    I got a question scorpion how many Czar's do you think Obama has because many of the talking heads seem to get some of them wrong and include in their list positions that were created long before Obama and who were confirmed by congress.
    By all accounts 36 Czar far more then any other President here is a good story on it,

    Some Question Whether Obama Has Too Many 'Czars' - Political News - FOXNews.com

    From the article,

    In fact, the vast majority of Obama's czar's technically report to one of his Cabinet secretaries or to Vice President Biden, which raises another question.

    "Who is minding all the czars?" asked presidential scholar Marth Kumar. "Is there a template for how they produce information and how they then provide it to the White House?"

    Even if the president is able to manage his czars efficiently, some of his critics are frustrated because the czars don't have to answer to Congress.

    Hence my problem with all the Czars no Check and Balance they aren't confirmed and wield way to much power.

    And this is a quote from Sen. Byrd on the subject.

    Senator Robert C., Byrd (D-W.Va) has raised the issues that so many czars "can threaten the constitutional system of checks and balances."

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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    By all accounts 36 Czar far more then any other President here is a good story on it,

    Some Question Whether Obama Has Too Many 'Czars' - Political News - FOXNews.com
    from your article:

    But by some accounts, Obama has nearly three dozen czars in his administration
    What a lovely get out of jail free statement that is.

    the real answer is there are ZERO czars.

    Let's spontaneously label a position a czar, get a few more people to do the same, and then tally them up.. hmm, lets see what we come up with.

    wow.. I count 36 positions that people have decided to label czar.. ok, lets present this factually:

    But by some accounts, Obama has nearly three dozen czars in his administration

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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    from your article:



    What a lovely get out of jail free statement that is.

    the real answer is there are ZERO czars.

    Let's spontaneously label a position a czar, get a few more people to do the same, and then tally them up.. hmm, lets see what we come up with.

    wow.. I count 36 positions that people have decided to label czar.. ok, lets present this factually:
    What is a "czar" but someone appointed to advise on and oversee policy on a particular matter?
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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post

    wow.. I count 36 positions that people have decided to label czar.. ok, lets present this factually:
    it's not me calling them it's the White House that is calling them along with Congress but hey nothing like the Truth on this matter.

    The bottom line is this all of the czars need to go I don't care who is in the White House there is no Check and Balance and when someone like Sen. Byrd starts making statement like I'm saying then people need to say oh wait a minute lets take a harder look at all of these czars that the President is appointing.

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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    What is a "czar" but someone appointed to advise on and oversee policy on a particular matter?
    It's a loosely defined catchy label that can be tossed around at will.

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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    it's not me calling them it's the White House that is calling them along with Congress but hey nothing like the Truth on this matter.

    The bottom line is this all of the czars need to go I don't care who is in the White House there is no Check and Balance and when someone like Sen. Byrd starts making statement like I'm saying then people need to say oh wait a minute lets take a harder look at all of these czars that the President is appointing.

    hell even Glenn Beck makes this disclaimer:

    • Since czar isn't an official job title, the number is somewhat in the eye of the beholder.
    Glenn Beck - Current Events & Politics - List of Obama's Czars

    So presenting something that is in the eye of the beholder as factual is a bit dishonest, no?

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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    hell even Glenn Beck makes this disclaimer:



    Glenn Beck - Current Events & Politics - List of Obama's Czars

    So presenting something that is in the eye of the beholder as factual is a bit dishonest, no?
    Tell that to the white House and Congress they are the one's who have decide to say these folks are Czars and given them allot more power then they should have and don't fall under any form of Check and Balance what part of this are you missing so I can try to make it clear to you.

    As for Mr. Beck please I take his remark like a grain of salt.

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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Control over mine and your tax Money to start with, help write policy even thou he never was confirm by Congress to do so.
    What types of spending can they pass without authorization? Your second objection describes most every congressional staffer, do you object to them too?

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