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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Grim, you are going to say something about him calling someone an idiot right?

    Or does that only bother you when Glenn Beck is called one?
    Calling someone an "idiot" (which I'm guilty of doing from time to time), although not very dignified, is something that's pretty common, and isn't a big deal to me... Especially on a political forum.

    The only time I call someone out for slinging insults and launching personal attacks, is when someone uses them as their response, rather than responding to the actual facts/issue at hand.

    Example: O'Reilly obtains document proving Pelosi stole Government funds
    Response: O'Reilly is an idiot and proven liar

    The prof responded to the topic, then injected an insult. He didn't use the insult as his response.

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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    And who would set the criteria and standards for what is considered to be American or Anti-American?

    Yes I watched that system of Checks and Balances that were set forth by the Founding Fathers be tossed out the window for 6 long years during the last administration...
    Why the urgent need now?
    What are you talking about huh GD American/Anti-American are you vaugely trying to refer to Mr. Jone Political Standings if so not biting has nothing to do with the fact that he nor any other so-called Czar has every had to sit in front of Congress and answer question before they got the job.

    Really so you understand that the Check and Balance only work well when there are two different powers in place unlike now and every other time that a Party control both the White House and Congress.

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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So what power did he have that you opposed to specifically? And how did his beliefs make him unable to properly use that power? Let's move beyond vague accusations and into specifics.
    Control over mine and your tax Money to start with, help write policy even thou he never was confirm by Congress to do so.

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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    The Associated Press: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy



    Setting aside the hilarious understatement in claiming he was "linked to...derogatory comments about Republicans," this is good to see.

    Hopefully we can recognize that this idiot got the appropriate treatment for his actions, and we can in turn give it the appropriate amount of attention it deserves - a few dozen posts in this thread before we drop it.
    Van Jones, in the past, has made statements supporting claims of truthers. Rather than be a distraction to his party during the health care debate, it is good that he stepped down. I hope Obama does better on his next pick, and chooses someone a little less controversial, say, someone who claims that Republicans had inside information that George Bush was a poopy head.
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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Calling someone an "idiot" (which I'm guilty of doing from time to time), although not very dignified, is something that's pretty common, and isn't a big deal to me... Especially on a political forum.

    The only time I call someone out for slinging insults and launching personal attacks, is when someone uses them as their response, rather than responding to the actual facts/issue at hand.

    Example: O'Reilly obtains document proving Pelosi stole Government funds
    Response: O'Reilly is an idiot and proven liar

    The prof responded to the topic, then injected an insult. He didn't use the insult as his response.

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    You make a valid point but I'd still rather see no insults at all just for the sake of politeness. Secondly, the Prof diminished the valid points that he made by adding an insult.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

    Interestingly, (sadly,) the news seems to be focusing on his crude insult, not his self-proclaimed status as a Communist and Truther.

    For comic relief (bad language of course,): Breaking News: Van Jones resigns as Obama environmental adviser over controversial statements - Democratic Underground
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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I think he deserves to lose his job for being a 9/11 truther, a racist, an asshole, a liar, and a pretentious douche. This has been discussed ad nauseum in other threads on here such as this one:

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...-assholes.html
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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

    calling an idiot a forum member who doesn't know the difference between "there" and "their" is one thing

    but the leader of the free world and his hi ranking employees are another

    and obama himself is an idiot

    1. he hired van jones, something apparently you can get away with in chicago, but across the 57 states---dang, you gotta be really dumb not to see IN ADVANCE how that's gonna go down

    2. he sent home all his congressfolk for recess with NO SINGLE health care plan to sell, promote or defend, leaving them all open to every possible objection, real, imagined, trumped up---a HUGE mistake

    3. it's sunday and gibbs was just on abc with stephy, axelrod on mtp with david---the president is to appear before both houses assembled wed nite to "reboot" (abc's words) his obamacare, and he STILL has no idea what he's gonna do, is there gonna be a public option yes or no, no one can say, is the prez gonna write the bill himself this time, it's still to be determined---all THIS according to white house spokesfolk THEMSELVES, just when do they plan to come up with all these answers, wednesday at dinner?

    4. he appointed a special prosecutor to politicize and criminalize the heroic agents who flipped khalid sheikh muhammad

    5. he sent out, to accompany his natl address to the kiddies, a lesson plan that was "inartfully" (the doe's word) worshipful---what does it tell you about the president, not the office of the presidency, but the president's PERSON, when he wants to talk to all the kids second period AND HALF THE NATION GOES BALLISTIC---dang, that's one MIGHTY UNPOPULAR president, folks, very very sad, no one TRUSTS him

    i'd feel sorry for him if he weren't so arrogant as to have believed that he'd be able to figure out on the job all the stuff concerning leadership he obviously has no clue about

    it times as tuff as these, america's final days

    obama's an idiot

    sorry

    (by the way, i stopped at 5 points for brevity's sake, i coulda gone on and on and on...)

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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

    how bout the time he told americans to shut up who were expressing legitimate concerns about his horribly-conceived, amorphous health care reform?

    how bout when he asked their neighbors to rat em out if they were fishy?

    how bout when treas secty and tax cheat geithner and chief econ adviser lawrence summers went on mtp and ftn to suggest raising taxes on EVERYONE?

    idiotic, anyone?

    it sure aint my fault

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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Doesn't matter he still should have had to sit in front of Congress and I would say he had allot more power as do the rest of the So-Called Czars.

    Check and Balance Folks that is what we are talking about Check and Balances
    I got a question scorpion how many Czar's do you think Obama has because many of the talking heads seem to get some of them wrong and include in their list positions that were created long before Obama and who were confirmed by congress.

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