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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Limt View Post
    Not ignorance, but indifference.

    I'm not for Obama, nor against Obama. I am, I strive to be, an objective observer of politics. Whether it is 'fair' or not, means nothing.

    Deserve has got nothing to do with it.

    This Van Jones guy is nothing.

    He is a peripheral player in a vast game.
    no one cares whom you're for or against

    you're nothing

    just like me

    van jones is bigger than you and me, but he's not that big

    the prez is HUGE

    and he was DUMB enough to hire van jones

    ask durbin and baucus, they're important too

    that's your problem limit, you don't KNOW durbin and baucus

    so how much can you REALLY know?

    van jones was fired on the EVE of health care

    why was he dismissed at midnit?

    in the middle of a holiday weekend?

    LOLOL!

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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post

    you really don't have a clue about american politics
    You said the Beer photo op would not happen. That the police officer would not let Obama use him as a tool. That he would make a stand and repudiate the president by standing him up.

    Yet there he was, helping the crippled professor down the stairs, and having suds with the President.

    I like you prof. I enjoy reading your wacky posts.

    But your biggest problem is the same it has been since I first started enjoying your zany 'shorthands.'

    You're too biased towards your own views. You write for your own emotional agenda and it is obvious.

    You fall in love with your own texts. It hinders any ability you may have to view events objectively, neutrally and dispassionately.

    You've been saying the healthcare debate has been over, for what, two months now?

    It is akin to predicting the world is going to end every day for the next 5 billion years, until the sun finally explodes, and then shouting "See, I told you I was right!"

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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    no one cares whom you're for or against

    you're nothing

    just like me

    van jones is bigger than you and me, but he's not that big

    the prez is HUGE

    and he was DUMB enough to hire van jones

    ask durbin and baucus, they're important too

    that's your problem limit, you don't KNOW durbin and baucus

    so how much can you REALLY know?

    van jones was fired on the EVE of health care

    why was he dismissed at midnit?

    in the middle of a holiday weekend?

    LOLOL!
    He resigned.

    He wasn't fired.

    Try to get your facts straight before you show off you political internet message board resume.

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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by poguemoran View Post
    once again i stated cabinet level position. Once again you argued that claiming no one was. Halbrooke was a cabinet level officer who was confirmed by congress. Just admit you were wrong and we can move on. You were wrong about none of these "czar's" being confirmed and you're wrong about this. Again you don't seem to know the difference between department, cabinet level officer, cabinet secretary and a cabinet level position. I already showed you the whitehouse site i showed you wikipedia. How many more links do you need. The head of fema used to be a cabinet level officer before bush rolled it under dhs. Again you're trying to argue something after the fact when i stated clearly from the beginning.

    Which part of the cabinet does the epa fall under which cabinet secretary has sway over it? Omb? None as these are offices ran by cabinet level officers something you still not seem to be able to understand the concept of
    were they confirmed by this congress the answer is no, it doesn"t matter if they were confirmed in the past as sen. Bryd stated>

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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

    YOU ARE ALL MISSING THE POINT

    THIS MAN WAS APPOINTED BY OUR PRESIDENT!! Someone who has vowed to protect our country and constitution APPOINTED SOMONE WHO WOULD LOVE TO TEAR THOSE THINGS DOWN!!!

    Easily accessible information OVERLOOKED, assuming he even had a background check DONE!!!!

    This man could have easily been an assassin bent on killing our president! Or worse!! And he would have succeeded!!

    AM I TAKING CRAZY PILLS?!?!?!?!

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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeVFF View Post

    AM I TAKING CRAZY PILLS?!?!?!?!
    Yes, you are.

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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    were they confirmed by this congress the answer is no, it doesn"t matter if they were confirmed in the past as sen. Bryd stated>
    Lol move those goalposts. You said that none had cabinet level positions and had been confirmed by the senate in the past. Now you're changing what you said. You were wrong 3 times in a row. Also cabinet level positions entail Deputy officers which are confirmed by the senate. So you were wrong about none being confirmed, wrong that none had cabinet level positions, that I don't know my US Government and now you're backtracking. This game you are playing is getting sad.

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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Lol move those goalposts. You said that none had cabinet level positions and had been confirmed by the senate in the past. Now you're changing what you said. You were wrong 3 times in a row. Also cabinet level positions entail Deputy officers which are confirmed by the senate. So you were wrong about none being confirmed, wrong that none had cabinet level positions, that I don't know my US Government and now you're backtracking. This game you are playing is getting sad.
    Answer the question were they confirmed by this Congress that is what I have stated for the get go. Sorry if you can;t follow along I know it must be hard to see with those Obamaglass's on.

    Also you seem to be missing my point I could care lest about the list what I have been stated all along is that the Czars need to go they are in Violation of Article 2 Section II of the US Const. do you agree or not. Checks and Balance we don't have them with the Czars. And as I have stated before I don't care who is sitting in the Oval Office the Czars are Un-Constitional.

    So do you agree or not that they need to go and that in the future no such thing as a Czar can be made unless they go before Congress.

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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Answer the question were they confirmed by this Congress that is what I have stated for the get go. Sorry if you can;t follow along I know it must be hard to see with those Obamaglass's on.

    Also you seem to be missing my point I could care lest about the list what I have been stated all along is that the Czars need to go they are in Violation of Article 2 Section II of the US Const. do you agree or not. Checks and Balance we don't have them with the Czars. And as I have stated before I don't care who is sitting in the Oval Office the Czars are Un-Constitional.

    So do you agree or not that they need to go and that in the future no such thing as a Czar can be made unless they go before Congress.
    Several of the "Czars" on your list were confirmed by this congress. You stated they weren't confirmed by congress you said it definitively and you were wrong. Obamaglasses? More partisan hackery by you. You stated information that was incorrect I called you out not once not twice but multiple times now you want to be a partisan hack.

    Oh another person who is a "czar" who previously was a cabinet level officer was Carol Browner when she was Administrator of the EPA. Earl Devanney doesn't need to be reconfirmed he's been IG for the Interior Department since 1999.

    These Czars you speak of have been around since the time of Andrew Jackson except they werent called Czars back then. So after all your other points fail you try to throw back on the constitution, thats nice. So you don't admit being wrong when you were wrong multiple times. I even went through your list with you. Were you complaining about this "egregious violation" when the previous president have 45 appointees? or is it just now?
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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Several of the "Czars" on your list were confirmed by this congress. You stated they weren't confirmed by congress you said it definitively and you were wrong. Obamaglasses? More partisan hackery by you. You stated information that was incorrect I called you out not once not twice but multiple times now you want to be a partisan hack.

    These Czars you speak of have been around since the time of Andrew Jackson except they werent called Czars back then. So after all your other points fail you try to throw back on the constitution, thats nice. So you don't admit being wrong when you were wrong multiple times. I even went through your list with you. Were you complaining about this "egregious violation" when the previous president have 45 appointees? or is it just now?
    Wrong the first time there every were any Czars was under Mr. Reagan you want another History Lesson. I have alway been against the Czars hell I'm against the Two Party System it is in clear violation of the US Const. and the Bill of Rights.

    Lets see so how many were confirmed by the Sen. and the House oh that's right noneof them were confirmed by the House were they so no the correct answer is that none of them were confirmed by this Congress. It takes both the House and Sen. to confirm a Cabinet Position.

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