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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

    van jones is NOT over

    the president owes all right thinking, normal minded americans an explanation

    how could such a whack-job as jones ever be appointed to any white house job?

    even if it's intrinsically powerless---LOLOL!

    also, holden

    also, sunstein

    politics aside, explanations are required

    van jones is NOT over

    actually, it's just BEGINNING

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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

    [QUOTE=PogueMoran;1058242345]

    There's the rest of Obama's cabinet level officers


    The following positions have the status of Cabinet-rank:



    Please read what that says HAVE but are not part of the Cabinet and they don't get to sit in on the Cabinet Meetings hance they aren't part of the Cabinet nor are they what Congress considers part of the Cabinet either.

    Shall we discuss Article 2 Section II of the US Const.

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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Wasn't your original post that none of these "czars" were confirmed by the senate and yet I showed many had been. Also the UN Ambassador was a Cabinet Level Officer under Clinton and is again under Obama so yes Holbrooke was confirmed by Congress. Didn't you say no one on the list was cabinet level and hadn't been confirmed? So I just showed you you were wrong three times in a row. Cabinet level positions are those working under various cabinets and not directly for the president.
    Were they confirmed by this Congress yes or no I think the answer is No hence going back to what I have been saying all along that all the Czars need to go there is no Check and Balance. As I have already stated that I don't care who is in the White house the Czars need to go. When Sen. Byrd starts question why there are so many and that he thinks it going around the US Const. don't you think it's time for the rest of Congress to starv asking the same question.

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    Oh and for the record Mr. Clinton's cabinet List came right from his Library website and that is the Cabinet he had both terms I copied straight like it is, hmm no mention of the UN Ambassador or the Chief of Staff as part of the Official Clinton White House Cabinet.

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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    ideology?

    objective observers?

    LOLOL!

    the existence of 30 czars indicates they're individually powerless, hrmph

    separation of powers, y'know

    LOLOL!

    it's not about POWER, silly limit

    it's P-O-L-I-T-I-C-S

    van jones is a TRUTHER, chin stroker

    he's on record blaming "white polluters" for poisoning "people of color communities"

    he sees COLUMBINE as typically HONKY

    LOLOLOL!

    and MR DEEP THOUGHT in the quote box above tells the erudite elites of dp.com---jones has no POWER

    so everything's OKAY!

    LOLOLOL!

    why, MISTER JONES is no LOSER, alleges limit

    no problem for the WHITE HOUSE, he cogitates

    POLITICALLY speaking, van jones is ROSES

    LOL!

    because he has NO POWER

    you don't often think 2 moves ahead, do you, rodin?

    how 'bout the powerless science guy who writes a textbook pushing FORCED STERILIZATION?

    and the "regulatory" "adviser" who wants to BAN HUNTING and give ANIMALS the RIGHT to SUE their OWNERS?

    LOLOLOL!

    LOLOLOLOLOLOL!

    sure, friend, all that matters in american politics is REAL power

    why, you can SAY just about anything you want down here in the states

    so long as there's never an ACTION to back it up

    yes, i've been watching this stuff go down for decades

    and you're absolutely right, limit, that's exactly the way it WORKS

    LOLOLOL!

    nice to SEE you again

    you never answered my questions last month
    Van Jones is irrelevent. The story is already a memory. Come tomorrow, when the real fireworks begin - Obama's speech - no one will remember, let alone want to remember, Van Jones and whatever craziness he says or doesn't say.

    He is nothing.

    His views are nothing.

    Politics is chess. And Van Jones is a pawn the king had to sacrifice, nothing more, nothing less.

    This is even smaller than the Gates story.
    Last edited by The_Limt; 09-08-09 at 10:22 PM.

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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

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    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post

    There's the rest of Obama's cabinet level officers


    The following positions have the status of Cabinet-rank:



    Please read what that says HAVE but are not part of the Cabinet and they don't get to sit in on the Cabinet Meetings hance they aren't part of the Cabinet nor are they what Congress considers part of the Cabinet either.

    Shall we discuss Article 2 Section II of the US Const.
    I don't get what you are debating. I originally stated Cabinet level positions in my post. You then tried to claim that there are no one who were. I pointed out who was you claimed it wasn't a cabinet level then I show it was now you're saying its not apart of the cabinet when that wasn't the original topic. Again Holbrooke was a Cabinet Level Officer which is what the original statement you made was about

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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Limt View Post
    Van Jones is irrelevent. The story is already a memory. Come tomorrow, when the real fireworks begin - Obama's speech - no one will remember, let alone want to remember, Van Jones and whatever craziness he says or doesn't say.

    He is nothing.

    His views are nothing.

    Politics is chess. And Van Jones is a pawn the king had to sacrifice, nothing more, nothing less.

    This is even smaller than the Gates story.
    An appointed advisor with radical racists and communist views are nothing? Please explain, your point eludes me.

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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Limt View Post
    Van Jones is irrelevent. The story is already a memory. Come tomorrow, when the real fireworks begin - Obama's speech - no one will remember, let alone want to remember, Van Jones and whatever craziness he says or doesn't say.

    He is nothing.

    His views are nothing.

    Politics is chess. And Van Jones is a pawn the king had to sacrifice, nothing more, nothing less.

    This is even smaller than the Gates story.
    ridiculous

    van jones reveals total lack of judgement on the part of the king

    it's why he had to sacrifice the pawn

    you think the hiring of jones showed good judgement?

    LOLOLOL!

    gates is one of the main reasons the public option is dead

    why doesn't baucus believe obama?

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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Limt View Post
    Van Jones is irrelevent. The story is already a memory. Come tomorrow, when the real fireworks begin - Obama's speech - no one will remember, let alone want to remember, Van Jones and whatever craziness he says or doesn't say.

    He is nothing.

    His views are nothing.

    Politics is chess. And Van Jones is a pawn the king had to sacrifice, nothing more, nothing less.

    This is even smaller than the Gates story.
    lets say your assessment is correct

    Why wouldn't Obama 'weather the storm' until after his speech tomorrow night, because nobody would care about Van Jones after it? Isn't it all about chess and strategy. I can see not withstanding the ****storm for months, but a couple of days until a major speech which will put other issues on the back burner seems like a better move to protect his beloved radicals who are going to fundamentally change the fabric of america.

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    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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    Re: Obama adviser Van Jones resigns amid controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Oh and for the record Mr. Clinton's cabinet List came right from his Library website and that is the Cabinet he had both terms I copied straight like it is, hmm no mention of the UN Ambassador or the Chief of Staff as part of the Official Clinton White House Cabinet.
    Again you don't seem to know Cabinet secretaries from cabinet level positions.

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