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    Appeals court rules against Ashcroft in 9/11 case

    Appeals court rules against Ashcroft in 9/11 case

    By REBECCA BOONE (AP) 6 hours ago

    BOISE, Idaho A federal appeals court has ruled that former Attorney General John Ashcroft can be sued by people who claim they were wrongfully detained as material witnesses after 9/11, calling the practice a "repugnant to the Constitution."

    A three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit of Appeals ruled Friday that the claims of a former University of Idaho student plausibly suggest Ashcroft purposely used the material witness statute to detain suspects whom he wished to investigate and detain preventively.

    "We find this to be repugnant to the Constitution and a painful reminder of some of the most ignominious chapters of our national history," Judge Milan D. Smith Jr. wrote.

    ... All three judges on the panel have reputations as politically conservative jurists, with two appointed by former President George W. Bush and the third a Reagan appointee.

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    What? The imperial presidency may finally be required to answer under the law? No matter the result of any such trial, just the fact that they MIGHT be required to answer to the laws of our country is a very good thing!

    I hope this appeals court ruling stands.

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    Re: Appeals court rules against Ashcroft in 9/11 case

    I knew John Ashcroft was evil when he sang that stupid song on teh Youtubz.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woLQI8X2R6Y&feature=related"]YouTube - John Ashcroft[/ame]

    Now, that may have been totally cheesy, but it had old conservative gals' hearts a-thumpin', and it was harmless. Or at least I thought it was harmless. When I played it backwards, it became obvious that George Bush had appointed a demon from hell to serve as his Attorney General.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sMDG_bpBAk"]YouTube - John Ashcroft Let The Eagle Soar backwards[/ame]

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    Re: Appeals court rules against Ashcroft in 9/11 case

    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    I knew John Ashcroft was evil when he sang that stupid song on teh Youtubz.

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    That was sooooo "Twin Peak's"-ish
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    Re: Appeals court rules against Ashcroft in 9/11 case

    That idiot needs to get what he deserves, I'd say.

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    Re: Appeals court rules against Ashcroft in 9/11 case

    I haven't read the full opinion, but personal liability seems like a rather huge stretch here.

    It's also worth noting that this was a divided panel, not a unanimous one as the article implies.
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    Re: Appeals court rules against Ashcroft in 9/11 case

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I haven't read the full opinion, but personal liability seems like a rather huge stretch here.

    It's also worth noting that this was a divided panel, not a unanimous one as the article implies.
    That's modern day "conservatives" for you. {in reality they're authoritarians}

    Their first inclination is to defend their guys in Government over the rights of individual US citizens.

    It was a split decision! ( Both judges in the majority were appointed by Bush I and Reagan)

    Our political elites being held responsible for some silly little imprisonment of a Muslim? Come on!
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    Re: Appeals court rules against Ashcroft in 9/11 case

    It will be throw out of Court by the USSC on appeal. This would only open a very large can of worms there is a reason why you can't sue Federal Officials.

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    Re: Appeals court rules against Ashcroft in 9/11 case

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    It will be throw out of Court by the USSC on appeal. This would only open a very large can of worms there is a reason why you can't sue Federal Officials.
    Profound.

    "It will open a large can of worms" is an accepted legal argument in wingnut Bizzaro World????

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    Re: Appeals court rules against Ashcroft in 9/11 case

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    It will be throw out of Court by the USSC on appeal. This would only open a very large can of worms there is a reason why you can't sue Federal Officials.
    Your qualifications are?

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