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    Re: Appeals court rules against Ashcroft in 9/11 case

    no one cares about ashcroft except partisans and historians

    the bush admin is history

    obama's the president now, and he's screwing up everything

    every headline is a disaster

    he can't do anything right

    this van jones thing is KILLING him, politically

    the school mess aint helping

    and he has an entire 16% of the economy to WRITE DOWN sometime this weekend

    between now and wednesday nite

    he has to come up with ALL the answers, ALL the details to obamacare

    cuz no one's gonna give him an ounce on TRUST alone

    not after all america has seen

    BIG TROUBLE politically

    backfiring in his rushmore face, headlines just this week:

    1. van jones

    2. the schoolday controversy

    3. unemployment 9.7%

    4. gotta start all over on health care, new approach, starting wed nite

    5. no public option, he's pretty sure, he says, he's still not quite certain

    6. afghanistan

    7. some kinda abu ghraib type prison breakdown over there

    8. charlie rangel---both the hush money and the race card

    9. a special prosecutor to go after the folks who flipped khalid sheikh muhammad

    10. cash for clunkers doesn't pay its bills

    dang

    and what positive headlines does THE CHIN have to offer on the other hand?

    oh, yeah, john ashcroft

    LOL!

    well, have fun with it, folks, it's totally understandable

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    Re: Appeals court rules against Ashcroft in 9/11 case

    Thank you for lowering the IQ of every one who ever reads your post.

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    Re: Appeals court rules against Ashcroft in 9/11 case

    the president wants to talk about health care

    all the political class is discussing the racist czar and the wannabe substitute teacher

    the president's "supporters," who rarely support, instead spend all their time personally attacking his critics, want to examine JOHN ASHCROFT

    LOLOLOL!

    politics is a funny business

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    Re: Appeals court rules against Ashcroft in 9/11 case

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    the president wants to talk about health care

    all the political class is discussing the racist czar and the wannabe substitute teacher

    the president's "supporters," who rarely support, instead spend all their time personally attacking his critics, want to examine JOHN ASHCROFT

    LOLOLOL!

    politics is a funny business
    Knowing that facts are not a big part of your discussions, but I thought I would quote one quick thing from the ruling.

    ABDULLAH AL-KIDD, No. 06-36059 Plaintiff-Appellee,
    Now what position does Mr. Al-Kidd hold in the Obama administration? He is, after all, the one who brought this suit as I understand it.

    Here is another line from the ruling:

    Argued April 8, 2008
    Hmmm...who's administration was in charge on that date?
    Last edited by Redress; 09-06-09 at 01:39 AM.

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    Re: Appeals court rules against Ashcroft in 9/11 case

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I haven't read the full opinion, but personal liability seems like a rather huge stretch here.

    It's also worth noting that this was a divided panel, not a unanimous one as the article implies.
    The article did imply it was a unanimous decision. Was it a 2-1 decision? Do you have another article?

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    Re: Appeals court rules against Ashcroft in 9/11 case

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    The article did imply it was a unanimous decision. Was it a 2-1 decision? Do you have another article?

    Here you go:

    Opinion by Judge Milan D. Smith, Jr.
    Partial Concurrence and Partial Dissent by Judge Bea
    12265
    There was a David R. Thompson who was the other judge, but no idea how he felt on this, or why his name is not mentioned in the above.
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    Re: Appeals court rules against Ashcroft in 9/11 case

    Quote Originally Posted by dragondad View Post
    That's modern day "conservatives" for you. {in reality they're authoritarians}

    Their first inclination is to defend their guys in Government over the rights of individual US citizens.
    No, my first inclination is to express surprise at an inexplicable abrogation of prosecutorial immunity, a long-standing practice that was recently upheld in Iqbal.

    It was a split decision! ( Both judges in the majority were appointed by Bush I and Reagan)
    What do you think that proves?

    Our political elites being held responsible for some silly little imprisonment of a Muslim? Come on!
    If you're going to keep up with this nonsense, I'm not going to bother responding to you.
    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

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    Re: Appeals court rules against Ashcroft in 9/11 case

    i already totally conceded your mr ashcroft, have fun with him

    but he's so yesterday, i suggested

    meanwhile, the president, who is starting all over on health care, as indicated by his summoning both houses wed nite, must come up with all the details concerning 16% of the us economy THIS WEEKEND

    public option or no public option?

    co ops, if so, what do they look like?

    how you gonna pay for it?

    and 100 other things

    HE STILL SAYS HE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW IF HE PLANS TO WRITE THE BILL HIMSELF THIS TIME OR ONCE MORE TURN IT OVER TO CONGRESS

    he hasn't really even STARTED, therefore

    and he's got to get it ALL done by wednesday

    we all know what he's doing monday and tuesday---LOLOL!

    the point---ashcroft aint worth a feather compared to WHAT's GOING ON TODAY

    but, by all means, have fun with him

    say hi to richard armitage

    LOL!

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    Re: Appeals court rules against Ashcroft in 9/11 case

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Here you go:



    There was a David R. Thompson who was the other judge, but no idea how he felt on this, or why his name is not mentioned in the above.
    ty, redress.

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    Re: Appeals court rules against Ashcroft in 9/11 case

    Hey Prof...we are discussing an Appeals Court ruling. Put down the joint and join in if you want, but right now, you are totally off on some tangent no one else is even close to.

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