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    Home-schooler ordered to attend public school

    Isn't the whole entire point of education to educate children so they can get jobs and not be a burden to the tax payers? This "the child needs to be exposed to different view points" sounds like a load of crap and a dangerous precedence. This isn't parents trying to pray instead of driving their child to a doctor. If these people were muslims and some judge used a crock of **** excuse like "the child needs to be exposed to different view points" there would outrage by liberal nuts in the media and everywhere about religious discrimination by a bigoted judge.

    Home-schooler ordered to attend public school - Washington Times

    A New Hampshire court ordered a home-schooled Christian girl to attend a public school this week after a judge criticized the "rigidity" of her mother's religious views and said the 10-year-old needed to consider other worldviews as she matures.

    Ever since the judge's ruling came out in July, the case has aroused the interest of home-schooling groups nationwide, whohave asked why a court has the power to decide whether someone's religious views are too extreme.

    The girl's mother, Brenda Voydatch, has engaged the Alliance Defense Fund, a Christian legal group based in Scottsdale, Ariz., to contest the ruling, in which the judge granted a request by the girl's father, Martin Kurowski, that the girl go to a public school.

    On Tuesday, the girl, Amanda Kurowski, started fifth grade at an elementary school in Meredith, N.H., under court order. Amanda's "vigorous defense of her religious beliefs ... suggests strongly that she has not had the opportunity to seriously consider any other point of view," District Court Judge Lucinda V. Sadler said.


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    The mother has primary physical custody of Amanda, whom she has home-schooled for several years in math, English, social studies, science, handwriting, spelling and the Bible

    Home-schooler ordered to attend public school - Washington Times

    The course load, except for the Bible study, is similar to what public students get and the mother's home schooling has "more than kept up with the academic requirements of the [local] school system," the judge's statement said. The child also takes supplemental public school classes in art, Spanish, theater and physical education and is involved in extracurricular sports such as gymnastics, horseback riding, softball and basketball.

    Her parents have been feuding for years over how she should be educated. The father tried to get Amanda removed from the mother's tutelage in 2006, but another judge ruled against him. However, the court did appoint Janice McLaughlin as a guardian of the child's legal interests.

    The father continued to push for some changes in the way his daughter was educated.

    "[Mr. Kurowski] believes that exposure to other points of view will decrease Amanda's rigid adherence to her mother's religious beliefs and increase her ability to get along with others and to function in a world which requires some element of independent thinking and tolerance for different points of view," Judge Sadler's ruling said.

    The ruling quoted Mrs. McLaughlin as saying the child "appeared to reflect the mother's rigidity on questions of faith." The child would "be best served by exposure to different points of view at a time in her life when she must begin to critically evaluate multiple systems of belief and behavior," it added.
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    Re: Home-schooler ordered to attend public school

    Hmmm. While that may be excessively statist in nature, non-intervention would have perhaps permitted a greater exertion of authoritarianism if she was simply being indoctrinated. Christian fundamentalists don't tend to be especially libertarian types, particularly when it comes to childrearing.

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    Re: Home-schooler ordered to attend public school

    At first, I was kind of pissed that the court would step in in that manner. Then I read where it's the father who instigated this. Now I understand.

    IMO, this is less of a case of the court sticking their nose in where it doesn't belong, and more of a case of a father wishing to have some say in how his child is educated.

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    Re: Home-schooler ordered to attend public school

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    At first, I was kind of pissed that the court would step in in that manner. Then I read where it's the father who instigated this. Now I understand.

    IMO, this is less of a case of the court sticking their nose in where it doesn't belong, and more of a case of a father wishing to have some say in how his child is educated.
    OK, thanks for bringing this to light. Based on what you reported/stated it appears that the OP left out, forgot, failed to include a few vital points of information. I am sure that it was not on purpose. I am sure that the OP had every intention of bringing up all of the truth soon, real soon.

    So tis is a dispute bewteen a father and ex wife. I am not in favor of courts interfering with commom people and their religion but in this case we have a split juridiction.
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    Re: Home-schooler ordered to attend public school

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    OK, thanks for bringing this to light. Based on what you reported/stated it appears that the OP left out, forgot, failed to include a few vital points of information. I am sure that it was not on purpose. I am sure that the OP had every intention of bringing up all of the truth soon, real soon.

    So tis is a dispute bewteen a father and ex wife. I am not in favor of courts interfering with commom people and their religion but in this case we have a split juridiction.
    Yea there is allot more to this story my Father live's in Guilford which is the next town over from Meridith and the stories fail to discuss some of he father conscerns. Which was what the Judge's ruling was based on.

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    Re: Home-schooler ordered to attend public school

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Yea there is allot more to this story my Father live's in Guilford which is the next town over from Meridith and the stories fail to discuss some of he father conscerns. Which was what the Judge's ruling was based on.
    It would also be nice to know what the disposition / agreement was regarding child raising in the divorce arranegement. We don't know if the judge went beyond the divorce agreements or did the judge in essense modify it.
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    Re: Home-schooler ordered to attend public school

    We had a thread that was about an almost identical topic around 6 months ago:

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/educat...mans-kids.html

    Like I said then:

    We have a situation where two parents are divorced. One parent wants the children to be home schooled. The other parent wants them to go to public school. Since they obviously can't spend half the week at home and half the week at public school, one side has to get what they want. The judge looked at the situation, looked at the types and detail of education that the kids would be getting from each, and made a decision. That's what has to happen.
    In this case, not only do we have the mother and father split, but the child's guardian ad litem that was appointed by the court has looked at the situation and agrees with the father.

    I don't see a problem here.
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    Re: Home-schooler ordered to attend public school

    I don't think the government should order any "home-schooler" to attend public schools. I think that is the parents personal right.

    That said....I have never met someone who was home-schooled that isn't a complete freak and who isn't "socially retarded". Maybe there are some who don't fit this stereotype, but I've known 20-30 in my life and they all are extremely strange and awkward.
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    Re: Home-schooler ordered to attend public school

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I don't think the government should order any "home-schooler" to attend public schools. I think that is the parents personal right.

    That said....I have never met someone who was home-schooled that isn't a complete freak and who isn't "socially retarded". Maybe there are some who don't fit this stereotype, but I've known 20-30 in my life and they all are extremely strange and awkward.
    If that was your experience, then it was what it was. Most of the homeschooled people I've known were well-educated, mature beyond their years, competent, capable and well-adjusted. One anecdotal opinion is as good as another...

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    Re: Home-schooler ordered to attend public school

    I think we still have to focus on the oft-ignored issue of parental coercion potentially being a far more authoritarian factor than state intervention.

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